Brither O'Donnell makes a statement on the Autopsy results

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Regardless of Autopsy, Wrong to Kill Terri Schiavo Priest Says
by Steven Ertelt
LifeNews.com Editor
June 15, 2005

http://www.lifenews.com/terri8.jpgClearwater, FL (LifeNews.com) – A Catholic monk who was by Terri’s family’s side in the weeks leading up to her starvation and dehydration death told LifeNews.com that the autopsy results have no bearing on the immorality of euthanizing her. Whatever led to Terri’s collapse, “in the long run it doesn’t matter,” Brother Paul O’Donnell, a Franciscan monk who helped Bob and Mary Schindler, told LifeNews.com.

" We still do not have the right to kill someone regardless of their physical or mental condition," he said.

It concerned O’Donnell that the autopsy results placed so much emphasis on how Terri died.

“I think it’s a matter of semantics to say whether she died of dehydration of starvation. Both are cruel and we’re still killing a human being,” he told LifeNews.com. “It was bogus to say Terri didn’t suffer.”

Commenting on the autopsy results released Wednesday by county medical examiner Dr. Jon Thogmartin, O’Donnell said he doesn’t think they get rid of the concerns Terri’s family ha that Terri may have been physically abused by her estranged husband Michael, leading to her 1990 collapse.

He disagreed with Thogmartin’s assessment that medical officials looked into that possibility early on.

“The homicide unit never did anything,” O’Donnell said. “You just done have a 20-something year-old woman collapse for no reason and not investigate that.”

O’Donnell said he and the Schindler family still believes its possible that physical abuse led to Terri’ collapse.

“They still believe there is enough circumstantial evidence that something happened to Terri that caused her to go into this condition,” he told LifeNews.com.

“We don’t know what happened,” O’Donnell added. “But, Michael has given three separate accounts of how he found Terri and I know the family is very worried and has concerns.”

O’Donnell also mentioned that Terri and Michael had severe arguments leading up to her collapse and he said it’s possible that Terri suffered from emotional and psychological abuse.

O’Donnell, said the autopsy contradicts information that came to light earlier in the debate over Terri’s condition.

“There was no evidence that Terri was bulimic,” O’Donnell said. “It resonated with me that the whole malpractice lawsuit was based on a lie. And under that very premise, everything else that takes place could be a lie.”

Related web sites:
Terri Schiavo’s parents - terrisfight.org
 
The death culture folks have had a real success today in selling ‘euthanasia’ of those the elitists deem to be useless eaters.

Fox and other types of media report that she would never get better.Is that a good enough reason to kill/put down the other brain-damaged folk in our country?
 
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Lizzie:
The death culture folks have had a real success today in selling ‘euthanasia’ of those the elitists deem to be useless eaters.

Fox and other types of media report that she would never get better.Is that a good enough reason to kill/put down the other brain-damaged folk in our country?
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Yes they have Lizzie:mad: Who are they to make a judgement on a persons worthines to live:nope: :mad:
 
Momofone said:
**Well, what would you like to know??😃 **
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Explain in laymans terms what is says and hurry your killing me over herehttp://bestsmileys.com/sick/3.gif
 
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Lisa4Catholics:
Explain in laymans terms what is says and hurry your killing me over herehttp://bestsmileys.com/sick/3.gif
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OK, basically, it says that PVS cannot be proven on the autopsy. No evidence of heart attack or bulemia. He disputes the results of the bloodwork that showed low potassium when she was in the ER. He says that the multiple broken bones from 1991 were probably caused by osteoporosis, but is basically unsure since he hasn’t seen the original bone scan. This was around one year after her collapse, It’s not likely that she developed osteoporosis in that little amount of time. (Emphasis mine)
He said that there’s no evidence of strangulation, but that “with such a delay, the exam was unlikely to show any residual neck findings” Now, you can cause this type of injury to a person without evidence being shown 15 minutes after the “strangulation” It’s a choke hold. The police do it all the time-though not to kill. You just do it a little longer and boom, you’ve got someone who is not breathing, which then leads to cardiac arrest. (Emphasis mine)

Cause of inital collapse-severe anoxic brain injury. (Lack of oxygen to the brain.) Why-undetermined. The case remains open and any new, credible evidence will result in further investigation, per the coroners report.

Rather ambigious, I’d say. And he got most of his info from records provided by Michael Shavio’s attorney. He’s open to other info being given to him(or so he says)But I’m happy that the “heart attack” and bulemia garbage are shown to be just that-garbage.

theempirejournal.com/614053_Schiavo_Autopsy_Based_on_Medical_Records_From_Husbands_Attorney.htm

The actual coroners report is PDF . You’d need Adobe Acrobat Reader, which is not a problem to download.

Anything else? I just gave brief info.
 
:hmmm: Wow!So the autopsy didn’t really prove anything but brain damage.It did not clear Michael because after so long they can’t really tell:hmmm: But the basis of the lawsuit was bogus the cause given for her lack of oxygen is bogus,this is not over!!!And the 28th Mark Furmans investigative book is released.
 
Lisa4Catholics said:
:hmmm: Wow!So the autopsy didn’t really prove anything but brain damage.It did not clear Michael because after so long they can’t really tell:hmmm: But the basis of the lawsuit was bogus the cause given for her lack of oxygen is bogus,this is not over!!!And the 28th Mark Furmans investigative book is released.
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BINGO!
 
Have you looked at the physician radiologist’s blog called codeblue? He is bright, damn good in what he says and has pointed out that initial hospital records and tests didn’t show the brain damage that presented at a later time. Injuries such as this occur at the time of the assault, they do not slowly evolve.

This lady named Teri had normal CT scans on her initial hospitalization. The CT scan that was posted on the net was done a year or two after her normal scan.showed…Non-communicating hydrocephalis was revealed. What does that mean? A routine shunt could have deleted the excess CSF fluid that was compressing and shriveling her brain.

No matter…there are many who are either like Terri or worse. As a liberal and a democrat, I wonder why those who rule my party today celebrate killing Terri and others who don’t measure up to their standard of the good life.
 
You know, I’ve always wondered how a strangulation could have taken place without him leaving those necessary tell-tale handprints on her neck. That always had me stuck - but I was thinking handprints.

I’d totally forgotten about the choke hold - the choke-hold doesn’t leave handprints. Our police officers were well trained in the use of that maneuver back in the late '70’s - it causes a momentary “brown-out” or a “black-out” and gives the officer just enough of an advantage that he can get the person subdued and get himself out of danger. The training included very specific ways of avoiding leaving lasting marks on the neck which could be photographed and used in a police brutality suit.

Interesting theory.

And how convenient that only Schiavo’s attorneys’ documentation was available for review?

And the ME sure seems to have left a lot unsaid and open-ended, didn’t he?

And I can’t wait for Fuhrman’s book to come out!

Elizabeth
 
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You know, I’ve always wondered how a strangulation could have taken place without him leaving those necessary tell-tale handprints on her neck. That always had me stuck - but I was thinking handprints.

I’d totally forgotten about the choke hold - the choke-hold doesn’t leave handprints. Our police officers were well trained in the use of that maneuver back in the late '70’s - it causes a momentary “brown-out” or a “black-out” and gives the officer just enough of an advantage that he can get the person subdued and get himself out of danger. The training included very specific ways of avoiding leaving lasting marks on the neck which could be photographed and used in a police brutality suit.

Interesting theory.

And how convenient that only Schiavo’s attorneys’ documentation was available for review?

And the ME sure seems to have left a lot unsaid and open-ended, didn’t he?

And I can’t wait for Fuhrman’s book to come out!

Elizabeth
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Indeed he did,and when that book comes out I propose we start a discussion thread on it.:ehh:
 
Lisa4Catholics said:
:hmmm: Wow!So the autopsy didn’t really prove anything but brain damage.It did not clear Michael because after so long they can’t really tell:hmmm: But the basis of the lawsuit was bogus the cause given for her lack of oxygen is bogus,this is not over!!!And the 28th Mark Furmans investigative book is released.
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Lisa:

What I’m reading in the article that was linked and in eh articles linked from it are positively sickening. We are talking about a situation so corrupt that just about every relationship was criminal in nature and appears to have been entered into for the purpose of committing a crime, that of taking Terri Schiavo’s Life.

In Criminal Prosecutions, if someone could establish Probable Cause that what I suggesting is, in fact, the case, that person could force ALL the records, legally protected and otherwise, to be revealed in a Court of Law and used as evidence against a set of people who are quite probably guilty of Murder by Judicial Order.

Two pieces of evidence that the MSM never considered:
  1. That the people involved in the case would have recused themselves if they had similar Conflicts on Interests and Relatinships in other states and in other cases; and
  2. Judge George Greer failed to examine or to even note the fact that Michael Schiavo gave Contractiory answers to the same question in the malpractice Case and in the Effort to order the Judicial homicide of Terri Schiave. The Question was, "Did Terri Schiavo ever tell you whether she wanted to live if she were severely brain damaged? If so, what did she say? The two answers he gave were mutually exclusive, and Judge Greer refused to even note the answer Michael gave at the malpractice trial, in spite of objections from the lawyers for the Schindler’s.
Together, that means that Terri and her Parents never got a trial and that the decision to kill Terri was made beforehand. I think the above is evidence of “Entering into relationship with others for the purpose of furthering a criminal enterprise.”

It would be interesting if someone could prove that.

Blessed are they who act to save God’s Little One’s. Michael
 
Michael you ought to read TheEmpireJournal online I will try to get a link.And yes the case stinks to high heaven from begining to end:mad:
 
hmmm…so the report doesn’t really state anything definitive…
 
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hmmm…so the report doesn’t really state anything definitive…
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It sure doesn’t,the media is trying to put a positive spin on it,but it has said nothing.And furthermore the medical records came from Michael and the ME said he would welcome the other reports from doctors that weren’t from Michael’s approved list(I added the approved list part).
 
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It sure doesn’t,the media is trying to put a positive spin on it,but it has said nothing.And furthermore the medical records came from Michael and the ME said he would welcome the other reports from doctors that weren’t from Michael’s approved list(I added the approved list part).
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http://bestsmileys.com/lol/4.gif michael’s approved list…
 
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