C. S. Lewis conversion

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Hello all.
What convinced C. S. Lewis to accept first theism and then Christianity?
I have reading that Chesterton and Tolkien played a big role in his conversion, but specific which of their concepts or ideas?
Thank you.
 
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Hello all.
What convinced C. S. Lewis to accept first theism and then Christianity?
I have reading that Chesterton and Tolkien played a big role in his conversion, but specific which of their concepts or ideas?
Thank you.
The Reluctant Convert highlights the influence on Lewis of two Catholic writers, G.K. Chesterton and J.R.R. Tolkien. “Tolkien explained the Gospels to Lewis in that late-night walk recounted in the play in Addison Walk in 1931,” McLean said during an interview at the Lansburgh Theatre. “Tolkien explained to Lewis that the Gospel was the myth that really happened.”

😀 And i only know that because I have just read this

http://www.ncregister.com/daily-new....r.r.-tolkien-and-martin-luther-walk-into-a-v
 
Have you ever read Surprised by Joy?

It pretty much sketches out his lifetime’s philosophical wanderings, from childhood through adolescence through young adulthood through teaching at Oxford. (Was he at Cambridge when this was published?)

The last couple of chapters cover his jump into theism, and then eventually into Christianity-- but as he admits, they’re not as clearly recorded as his previous wanderings were. A lot of this, as he says, is because once he gets into theistic territory, he stops obsessively paying attention to himself and his own thoughts. 😛 Another thing that comes up is that the longing, the sensucht, the pursuit of joy— that he realizes that the joy isn’t important in and of itself, but in that it directs you elsewhere to what’s important-- like a signpost.

So, even though the entire point of Surprised by Joy is to show how he follows that longing for a fleeting impression and trying to discover its source, the actual part where he finds himself drawn to what he’s been pursuing his entire life isn’t as well-developed as other parts of his life.
 
True, indeed. I’ve collected CSL (Chesterton and Tolkien, for that matter) for around 45+ years.But I’m not available currently. Various reasons, related to real life. Maybe later.

Agree with comments so far.
 
Hello midori, I’ve read it, a spanish translation of it actually. Great book. He mentioned there at some point the influence of a book “Phantastes” on his conversion. I’ve read that too but I cannot find the “conection” he mentioned. Well I gess since we are all different people different things works different ways for us. He also mentioned the influence of Tolkien, Chesterton and others, but I’m curious exactly which of their explanations move him to take the further steps into acepting first God then Jesus. Maybe somebody in this forum knows more details about it.
 
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There’s a very good video on youtube about it if you or the OP can find it.
 
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Will pray for the situation in your Real Life. You have already served above and beyond.
 
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Thank you. I’m trying to get back into the mood, after dealing with two of the eternal verities (death and taxes, in this case. And then there’s my head cold) over the past 3-4 weeks. I’m thumbing through about a dozen of my books on Lewis (bios/studies/commentaries) to see if there is anything that significantly adds to SBJ. And so far, there isn’t.

When I get tired of pulling books off the shelf (there are 60+ more of them on Lewis), probably in a day or two, I’ll report. Or if anyone finds something to the point, I’ll be happy to learn it.
 
Ok, I’ve now sifted through 17 books on Lewis, and my head cold is down to about 8.5 on the Richter scale. I could keep on plowing through other books on Lewis, but I can see the trend.

The issue under consideration was the desire to know more details about the steps of Lewis’ conversion as he briefly outlines them in chapters XIII-XV in SURPRISED BY JOY. The verdict: You are unlikely to find out much more detail as requested here, from Lewis himself. As Lyle Dorsett said, in SEEKING THE PRIVATE PLACE: THE SPIRITUAL FORMATION OF C.S LEWIS, “…Lewis never really tried to explain the mystery of his conversion”. In any degree which satisfies our curiosity, any way, beyond SBJ. Which means that I, who have been a Chesterton collector for as long and as avidly as I have collected Lewis (and other stuff) won’t get any details on the impact of THE EVERLASTING MAN, beyond that it made sense of the Christian take on history, and GKC was full of common sense. True. And, sorry I’m unlikely to learn more of that.

One could wish for some insight into the reported fragment of an autobiographical account of his conversion that Lewis seems to have started about 1932 (reported basically by Walter Hooper, who said in his and Roger Green’s 1974 bio of Lewis that a 72 page fragment of such a work was in his hands, discovered after Lewis’ death), in which Lewis proposed to trace the path by which he had moved from materialist to belief in God. Sounds promising; this was approximately the time that PILGRIM’S REGRESS was written, perhaps there is something in there. But if anything more was heard of that fragment, it hasn’t been heard by me, yet. Joe Christopher, in his 1987 C.S. LEWIS, says it was unpublished, as of that date. I might have missed it.

But there is certainly more that profitably might be read on the subject, with some suggestive observations. Hooper and Green’s C.S. LEWIS -A BIOGRAPHY, esp. Chapter IV. Alister McGrath’s excellent 2013 bio, ECCENTRIC GENIUS. RELUCTANT PROPHET./C.S. LEWIS/A LIFE. And especially his follow-up THE INTELLECTUAL WORLD OF C.S. LEWIS, chaps. 1-3 and 5 in particular; chap. 1 is a good critque of SBJ. But on the questions rasied in the thread, I could find no useful answers. Maybe I didn’t look far or deep enough. But as of now, life and death have put me far behind where I should be at this time of the year and I must try and catch up.

Merry Christmas.
 
Since you referred a few times to SBJ in your post as a valuable source of information, I kept wondering is this a new poster in CAF, and if YOU admire their posts I need to search them out on this or other threads.

If CSL were alive now, he no doubt would encourage us to a Little attention to his conversion, and a whole more attention to our own.
 
No, SBJ is an abbreviation for SURPRISED BY JOY, which remains the best source I could find on the questions on his conversion, though it is limited in ways, and though some other things can be found, as in the sources I also mentioned. And likely more.

As to your para 2, I am certain that would be the case
 
The four walls of materialism being the walls of a prison? Me too.
 
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