California's "Values & Choices" Sex-ed curricula

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My 8th-grade son is about to be “exposed” to this. :eek:

Anyone familiar with this program? Is it adequate? What are it’s downsides? How best to supplement this material? Or just replace it in its entirety?

I realize it’s faith “neutral” but it claims to emphasize abstinence over activity. That’s not as good as a Catholic-based “abstinence only” course, but . . .
 
Stumbler, is there a “parent preview” night to review the curriculum in it’s entirety? Please attend if there is. Parents just don’t preview this stuff as they should. I just opted my 5th grader out of sex ed. Only 4 parents out of 57 kids showed up. I’m not familiar with the curriculum you’ve indicated. However, if you have an opt out option and you’ve reviewed the material and don’t feel it’s appropriate in any way----take the opt out option. Sometimes it’s the questions from the other kids or the teachers’ own personal opinions regarding the material that would be inappropriate or damaging to your child. Look into Dr. Colleen Mast’s sex ed program. If you have any other questions—PM me or you can just write here in the thread. It’s good to know there are parents out there that still care about this stuff.

P.S. I’ve been doing “sex ed” Catholic style with my 5th grader each week (her class is 6 weeks long). We’ve gotten so close. It’s sometimes difficult to talk to her about the Birds and the Bees, but because I’m taking the time and being honest with her, framing everything within God’s plan, she has told me things I never thought she would. It’s been a blessing.

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Giannawannabe
 
I don’t know this particular curricula, but if there is not a “Parent viewing night” don’t throw him into the Lions Den. Call first, Positively Waiting and talk to Karen or her husband. I don’t have her phone number, but they are located in Mission Hills, California under Positively Waiting. This is a abstinence only - Christian based ministry that travels to the jr hi and hi schools in so cal telling their story and encouraging boys to be men and protect their girls by not having sex and girls to value themselves until marriage. It is heart wrenching and beautiful to hear their testimony, but as well, I encourage you to meet with them first, prior to allowing your child to hear what they have to say. They are very truthful and have a huge success rate. Good luck in this area, I hope it is not one of the “it’s ok to be gay” classes which show the children “how to be” and hand out condoms. Seriously check them out first. If it is state ran, I would be very cautious about it. Well, I sound very paranoid. Sorry. I’m glad you’re checking into it.
 
I went to the parent preview night last week. I was the only dad, maybe 4 other moms, and 3 science teachers (so maybe 60-80 8th graders?).

From what I gather, the approx. 3 week course follows the following outline:
1 - Start with a discussion of standard “values” such as honesty, responsibility, respect, etc.
2 - View videos on certain topics, such as sexuality, STD’s, homosexuality, pregnancy, etc. (the one I saw used line art, but was quite graphic).
3 - the teacher uses the values as a framework to discuss each topic
4 - students are coached to start thinking about making appropriate decisions about each topic given the “values” that serve as the framework
5 - Occasional (3-5?) assignments come home for parental discussion

Supposedly abstinence is emphasized, but I gather that teacher quality really comes into play here. Why? Because I’m not sure that the connection between the videos, the values discussion, and the desired end-point (abstinence) is very explicit. It seems to be all up to the teacher to connect the dots.

That also means that abstinence is one of a variety of choices. So the approach is definitely not “abstinence only”.

Alternatives?
 
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From what I gather, the approx. 3 week course follows the following outline:
1 - Start with a discussion of standard “values” such as honesty, responsibility, respect, etc.
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Who determines what those values mean? Responsibility could mean using a condom, and respect could mean waiting until your 2nd date to have s*x. Sounds like giannawannabe is doing really well with the opt out. Hey, the opt out could mean taking your child to Starbucks and having great conversations (in hushed tones, of course!)
—KCT
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Who determines what those values mean? Responsibility could mean using a condom, and respect could mean waiting until your 2nd date to have s*x. Sounds like giannawannabe is doing really well with the opt out. Hey, the opt out could mean taking your child to Starbucks and having great conversations (in hushed tones, of course!)
—KCT
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I let my daughter sleep in on s*x ed days (it’s the first class of the day), then we go over a chapter in “Joyful Mysteries of Life” book by Catherine and Bernard Scherrer and then I bring her out for donuts. We’ve been having a wonderful time.
I agree that the so-called “values” that the school may be talking about will most likely NOT be the values that you wish to impart to your son. The very fact that they are going to intro homosexuality and talk about it in the framework of “values” that were introduced raises red flags to me. There is a BIG difference between abstinence-only programs and abstinence-based programs. I think in some areas of the country, abstinence-based means they" might" mention abstinence as an option.
BTW, I found the exact title of Dr. Colleen Kelly Mast’s book, “LOVE AND LIFE A Christian Sexual MOrality Guide for Teens” I plan on using this one in Middle School with my kids.

God Bless
Giannawannabe
 
Heres a thought. Shoot it down if you’d like. If the child seems mature and able to think critically, it might be a good thing to put that child throught the program. The4n do a lot of work at home, giving your views. Now thats a pretty big if, since I think a lot of children aren’t up for that. If the child respects you and the stance makes sence, its going to pull more weight than the teaching of the school. The earlier you start them out the better, cause its going to be later in the high school years that they will really have to go against the grain on views of sexulity. This way you have them extra prepared and they can also maybe pull some of their friends out of these relationships. And best of all maybe you can convice your kid to be what they love to be a rebel. Of course thats a tough assignment, not every child is able to do that.
 
What happens here is New World Religion dogma (namely leftwing-ism) is being imposed on your kid.
 
I don’t know about the program you mentioned, but check out this article from Rome. Very helpful/intersting but also challenging. Good luck!
 
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