Calling all Churches of Christ! Where'd you get your bible?

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I have a friend of mine that is Church of Christ. He uses the KJV of the Bible. But he claims his Church is the same Church as the New Testament Church of Acts. They broke of from what is now the Roman Catholic Church when it went into Apostasy (no definate dates, no definate reasons - just Apostasy).

The problem is, what Bible did this Church of Christ Religion use prior to the King James Bible? Are there any of these Pre-KJV’s that they used still in existence?

Am I the only one that finds this claim incredulous?

Notworthy
 
The so called “church of Christ” only goes by that name, they really are not what they call themselves.

They were not started until the year 1906 by schismastics that were breaking away from the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ)
 
Actually, he’s a member of the church, not the church itself. “Church of Christ” is not an adjective. Does he use only the KJV? This is not a doctrine which is common to most members of the Church of Christ. Actually you have it backwards. Members of the Church of Christ believe that the Catholic Church broke from the Church of Christ, by going into apostasy. (Several definite reasons for this: the Catholic Church discarded the traditions of the apostles, which we were commanded to hold firm to.) Many, many other translations, including the Latin Vulgate. The Church of Christ does not use just the KJV, although a very, very small number of its members are under that delusion. Did this man ever claim to you that the Church of Christ uses only the KJV? The early church had copies of the letters that the apostles wrote, which were distributed amongst the churches.

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Interesting thread. I have a new friend who is COC and I’m sure I"ll learn a lot from this thread. I have a few questions for you.

Which traditions do you believe the Catholic Church discarded? What is your source for knowing which traditions fall into the catagory of those which cannot be discarded?

Thanks!

In Christ,
Nancy 🙂
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ReflectHim:
Actually, he’s a member of the church, not the church itself. “Church of Christ” is not an adjective. Does he use only the KJV? This is not a doctrine which is common to most members of the Church of Christ. Actually you have it backwards. Members of the Church of Christ believe that the Catholic Church broke from the Church of Christ, by going into apostasy. (Several definite reasons for this: the Catholic Church discarded the traditions of the apostles, which we were commanded to hold firm to.) Many, many other translations, including the Latin Vulgate. The Church of Christ does not use just the KJV, although a very, very small number of its members are under that delusion. Did this man ever claim to you that the Church of Christ uses only the KJV? The early church had copies of the letters that the apostles wrote, which were distributed amongst the churches.

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Catholic4aReasn:
Interesting thread. I have a new friend who is COC and I’m sure I"ll learn a lot from this thread. I have a few questions for you.

Which traditions do you believe the Catholic Church discarded? What is your source for knowing which traditions fall into the catagory of those which cannot be discarded?

Thanks!

In Christ,
Nancy 🙂
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Feel free to PM me, but I will not be attacked on this forum. I have no problem discussing anything you would like to discuss. But more often than not, it becomes a full-fledged battle about who’s right and who’s wrong, when both parties are convicted in their faith.
 
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ReflectHim:
Actually, he’s a member of the church, not the church itself. “Church of Christ” is not an adjective. Does he use only the KJV? This is not a doctrine which is common to most members of the Church of Christ. Actually you have it backwards. Members of the Church of Christ believe that the Catholic Church broke from the Church of Christ, by going into apostasy. (Several definite reasons for this: the Catholic Church discarded the traditions of the apostles, which we were commanded to hold firm to.) Many, many other translations, including the Latin Vulgate. The Church of Christ does not use just the KJV, although a very, very small number of its members are under that delusion. Did this man ever claim to you that the Church of Christ uses only the KJV? The early church had copies of the letters that the apostles wrote, which were distributed amongst the churches.

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But see, here’s my problem. No attack. The KJV has one canon. The CofC uses the same canon as the KJV has now. The Catholic Church was the only producer of Bibles prior to the KJV, and it of course has a different canon. The Latin Vulgate uses the same canon that was developed since the beginning.

So, again, did they just use the Catholic Bibles, with the “Apochrypha” books in them?

Notworthy
 
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ReflectHim:
Members of the Church of Christ believe that the Catholic Church broke from the Church of Christ, by going into apostasy. (Several definite reasons for this: the Catholic Church discarded the traditions of the apostles, which we were commanded to hold firm to.)
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This would make a great thread! (hint) (hint)

Notworthy
 
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NotWorthy:
This would make a great thread! (hint) (hint)

Notworthy
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go at it. but i will not give the satisfaction of arguing with anyone about it. so nothing would be solved or nothing new would be added. cats discussing with other cats about the lifestyles of dogs would never really get the full or right impression of dogs, without imput from a dog.
 
ReflectHim,
How can I defend the loss of Apostolic Tradition (that’s the first time I’ve heard the term used “against” the Catholic Church) if I’m not aware of which Traditions we’ve abandoned? It would be better for you, Le Cat, to open up the thread.

With that said, back to the thread.

Whose Bible did you use prior to the KJV or any other Protestant guided Bible (yes, I know you’re not Protestant). The only Bibles that included the New Testament prior to the Reformation (that I’m aware of) were lovingly created and preserved by our dear Mother Church!

Notworthy
 
Please accept my apology. I sincerely didn’t mean to come across as attacking. As I said, I have a new friend who is COC and I thought this a chance to learn more.

In Christ,
Nancy 🙂
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ReflectHim:
Feel free to PM me, but I will not be attacked on this forum. I have no problem discussing anything you would like to discuss. But more often than not, it becomes a full-fledged battle about who’s right and who’s wrong, when both parties are convicted in their faith.
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ReflectHim:
go at it. but i will not give the satisfaction of arguing with anyone about it. so nothing would be solved or nothing new would be added. cats discussing with other cats about the lifestyles of dogs would never really get the full or right impression of dogs, without imput from a dog.
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(As Randy Jackson might say:)) “okay dawg, tell us the Truth as you understand it”. I think this is a very important topic. Please give us your (name removed by moderator)ut.
Thanks in advance,
Paul
 
I am taking this “abandonment of apostolic tradition” with a huge grain of salt, the reason is that I was raised in the campbellite sect or cult that is a Protestant denomination, and baptised there by drowning.

Everyone that is familiar with this sect know that they absolutely hate all traditions, labeleing ALL traditions as being “the traditions of men”, while the literally interpretted bible is considered the voice of God, God himself.

It is like the campbellites set up this dichotomy.

From tradition =s from traditions of “men” illegitimate.

From the literally interpretted bible =s from God verbatim, =s the voice of God speaking.

Campbellites are not only cultists who think they are the only Christians to exist, but they are also idolators worshipping the literal words of the Bible as being the dictated “word of God”
 
^ so your just an angry ex-member of the church. I’d expect you to be biased and closed minded and spit untruths. I really would. To pull yourself as far away from whence you’ve come. It makes perfect sense to hate, in your shoes.

so why bother even trying to make a comment. it’s pointless. in my opinion. to which we are all entitled.
 
Actually I am a current member of THE Church.

Hate, who is calling God’s church “apostate” and imagines a denomination only 100 years old is “the church”?

God didn’t have a church until 100 years ago when human beings split away from the Christian Church Disciples of Christ?

You and your sect can call yourselves anything you want, but not legitimately. You have the wrong parents, wrong birthday, wrong birthplace, to be anything but imposters to the
REAL Church of Christ, no matter what you call yourselves you are just opperating under an assumed name.
 
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boppysbud:
Actually I am a current member of THE Church.

Hate, who is calling God’s church “apostate” and imagines a denomination only 100 years old is “the church”?

God didn’t have a church until 100 years ago when human beings split away from the Christian Church Disciples of Christ?

You and your sect can call yourselves anything you want, but not legitimately. You have the wrong parents, wrong birthday, wrong birthplace, to be anything but imposters to the
REAL Church of Christ, no matter what you call yourselves you are just opperating under an assumed name.
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and you feel you can win someone over with this attitude. i mean seriously. you spill hatred and disgust from your mouth, if this is what your church represents then i resent it. you are a bad example of what you church may teach. sadly enough. you make ones want to turn away from anything you believe, i mean seriously your hatred for others that don’t agree with you sucks. its almost unbearable.
 
Guys, the subject of this thread is early bibles for members of the Church of Christ. If you wish to bash someone who I’ve invited to come share there teachings with, then you’re on the wrong thread!!! It belittles you and me both.

With that said, can we get back onto the topic?

Reflect, I’m sorry about other people’s attitudes. I didn’t “reel you in” just to bash you.

Notworthy
 
If you care to see hatred dripping from campbellite tounges, complete with skull and crossbone “icons”, and tons of lies about the ONe, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic church see:

www.bible.ca

to see hatred, from the one and only “churchofChrist”.

Or google “Catholicism Against Itself”.
 
so one thing can judge an entire group. boppy if you were the one that was chosen to represent catholicism than you would come off the same way.

i have not visted that site, not ever been there. but to use one instance or even a few instances to bring about negativity towards my church is fine. i will take that as is.

there will always be a few or many that will provide the wrong look into my church. but boppy if you want the real answers and to do more than to be cruel and attack, than you would sincerly ask and listen. but because you were once a member of my church you feel it necessary to be negative and hateful. boppy common knowledge is that you can find any and EVERYTHING online.

a group that doesn’t exactly portray the exact doctrine of a group will always be the first thing that people find. not finding the truth.

i did not write that website. nor is it one that puts the name Church of Christ on it, not to my knowledge. Even still, its not a church website, or a congregation shall I say. So what point are you making?

Because you are mean, hate spirited and closed minded, should i judge your church because of your actions. I think not. Thus far I’ve only had a few bad encounters with catholics. and I can’t say that it had anything to do with that person being catholic. I chalk that incident up to that individual, who was not representing their church.

I will not be simple like that. Please continue to find all bad things about my church. And if you never show anything positive about it, its fine. I won’t sweat it. Because if i felt that I could belittle and lower myself to your standards I could find the same and speak ill of your church. But I will not do that.

That is not what I’m here for. More than anything boppy you are spitting hatred. Because others may, does that give you the right to do it? I doubt it. God holds you accountable for your actions.

I am not offended. I just know that you give the wrong impression of your church and your church members. I am really just trying to understand your approach. What point are you trying to prove. Where are you taking this. What response do you believe you can get out of me? Please let me know.

But I will try and do my best to have a christian attitude. Unlike you my friend, unlike you.

[will look at site, but don’t think i’ve ever been to it, and what apologies can I say for it, I didn’t write it, it’s not endorsed by a specific church…what am I to do?] Boppy from the way I see it, if you were to have a website thats what yours would look like to. You spew your hatered and disgust the same way. the teapot calling the kettle black seems to me. what makes you any different than this person?

for a better understanding of doctrine in the church of christ i would recommend

www.preachersfiles.com

Because we are of different beliefs, no things on the site will not cater to another religion, but no more than a catholic site would have other doctrine. I believe the outlines are consise and clear, if you want to do a search. But no more than you would make a apolgies for doctrine, neither can I. But to others, God Bless
 
Please keep this discussion on topic. If you would like to discuss another topic, please begin another thread.

This topic is for Church of Christ members to provide information on how their bible was formed.

Thank you for your cooperation.

Rachel

PS 👍 ReflectHim, NotWorthy, Catholic4aReason (et al.) kudos to your charitability!
 
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