Can A Loving Fruitful Marraige Exist Without Sexual Intimacy?

[consecrated_one]

It must have been very hard for your mother. But love, God’s love gets us thru. In our case we had a vibrant and very enjoyable and enriching 17-18 yrs. Soon we will be married 19 and it’s just this “time of life” that really put a wrench in things. In my head I think “oh, yes” but my body has changed forever (a painful, oh, NO) and I want to embrace this new me. I enjoy going to mass everyday, thinking about things we’ll do together as our teenager is getting older. I just don’t want to go against anything from the church. Our love and mutual respect and caring is greater than ever. It’s from this love and caring that this decision grows.
Thank you so much for your undersanding and thoughtful responce.

 

[m134e5]

Marriage is a very specific thing with very specific purposes, the chief purpose been the creation and education of children, as such if two people are knowingly unable to fulfil the purpose of the sacrament there is no reason for a marriage and indeed there cannot be a marriage.

Like the other six sacraments, the chief purpose of the sacrament of matrimony is to provide those who receive it with the grace they need to help them grow in holiness. We aren’t simply (or even mostly) here to breed. Marriage is a sacrament between a husband, a wife, and God. Part of receiving that sacrament means being open to life, but the children of the marriage aren’t the ones receiving the sacrament- the sacrament’s validity does not depend on them or whatever disposition they might have.

 

[momor]

Like the other six sacraments, the chief purpose of the sacrament of matrimony is to provide those who receive it with the grace they need to help them grow in holiness. We aren’t simply (or even mostly) here to breed. Marriage is a sacrament between a husband, a wife, and God. Part of receiving that sacrament means being open to life, **but the children of the marriage aren’t the ones receiving the sacrament- the sacrament’s validity does not depend on them or whatever disposition they might have./**QUOTE]

Can you clarify what you mean by the last sentence? I don’t understand how this relates to the other posts on this thread.

Thanks.

 

[centurionguard]

m134e5;6370096:

Like the other six sacraments, the chief purpose of the sacrament of matrimony is to provide those who receive it with the grace they need to help them grow in holiness. We aren’t simply (or even mostly) here to breed. Marriage is a sacrament between a husband, a wife, and God. Part of receiving that sacrament means being open to life, but the children of the marriage aren’t the ones receiving the sacrament- the sacrament’s validity does not depend on them or whatever disposition they might have./

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Can you clarify what you mean by the last sentence? I don’t understand how this relates to the other posts on this thread.

Thanks.

I would say that the offspring of children as a loving gift from God surely “is” a part of the Marriage Sacrament. In most cases I would think that (“IF”) the sexual act of intimacy is done in true love…Procreation itself is the binding fruit that binds a true marriage together in love. I can remember my own parents saying that their 52 years of marriage may not have lasted had it not been the binding love their children brought to them.
I take no personal credit for this because all love is purely a gift of God.

 

[kage_ar]

I am not stating a position pro or con on which way marriage requirements should be defined, only that I’d like to see them wholly rational. Is marriage about procreation or isn’t it?

Start with the CCC, then use the footnotes to read the full documents.

Catechism on marriage begins here:

scborromeo.org/ccc/p2s2c3a7.htm#1601

1601 "The matrimonial covenant, by which a man and a woman establish between themselves a partnership of the whole of life, is by its nature ordered toward the good of the spouses and the procreation and education of offspring; this covenant between baptized persons has been raised by Christ the Lord to the dignity of a sacrament."84

 

[lucyroo]

Abraham and Sarah were unable to have children on there own. It took a miracle from God. In fact, Catholics, who are generally pro-life, will often say that a baby, whether born or not, is a miracle from God. If, in fact, a baby is a miracle, then why would anyone assume that a couple cannot create a child. After all, anything is possible through God, right? So, while it may be cannon law that a marriage between two people who can’t have children isn’t really a marriage at all, that law really doesn’t apply to anyone because through God all things are possible. You never know what might happen in a year or two or ten or even fifty.

 

[NEWCATHOLICJEFF]

Can somebody answer this question please. #3 cannot be changed or wished away.

#1 A man has two Children from a previous marriage

#2 His wife dies giving birth to a third child.

#3 He and another women decide to get married, but both know that they will NEVER and I mean NEVER have sexual relations to consumate their marriage even though they physically can. I repeat they ABSOLUTLEY KNOW with certanty they will not have sexual relations.

#4 The father has decided to adopt a daughter and he and the women will not have any more children.

#5 The woman and man will raise the fathers adopted child together.

Can they be validly married in the Church, and if not why?

 

[Bookcat]

Can somebody answer this question please. #3 cannot be changed or wished away.

#1 A man has two Children from a previous marriage

#2 His wife dies giving birth to a third child.

#3 He and another women decide to get married, but both know that they will NEVER and I mean NEVER have sexual relations to consumate their marriage even though they physically can. I repeat they ABSOLUTLEY KNOW with certanty they will not have sexual relations.

#4 The father has decided to adopt a daughter and he and the women will not have any more children.

#5 The woman and man will raise the fathers adopted child together.

Can they be validly married in the Church, and if not why?

here…I posted this on your thread…but here it is again…

From Jimmy Akin the chief apologist at Catholic Answers…he talks about several things…but he does answer your question:

jimmyakin.org/2005/07/marys_marriage.html