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RabbiDaniel
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Does beleiving (Religion, Bible) have an influence on the pro life, pro choice issue?
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Shakuhachi
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An atheist can certainly value and advocate for the right to life of the unborn.
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Dolphin
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The March for Life every year has a group called “Atheists for Life” that attend
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Dan123
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It certainly influences it, you can look at any poll on the issue to see that. But there’s people on both sides of the issue who identify as lots of things including atheist and theist. So being religious or not influences but doesn’t dictate.
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nfinke
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To answer the post and not the title, yes and no.
There is far more than enough of a scientific basis for being pro life that I don’t in any way need the Bible to get to that conclusion.
That being said, my faith influences all my views, whether I want it to or not.
There is far more than enough of a scientific basis for being pro life that I don’t in any way need the Bible to get to that conclusion.
That being said, my faith influences all my views, whether I want it to or not.
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TheLittleLady
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VanitasVanitatum
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There’s a lot of religious pro-choicers and there are secular pro-lifers.
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Canvas
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Why couldn’t an atheist be pro-life?
One doesn’t have to be religious to see that abortion is a horror.
One doesn’t have to be religious to see that abortion is a horror.
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upant
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of course,
an atheist can be anything they want,
hopefully, in the end, a believer.
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JSRG
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I believe a higher percentage of Christians are pro-life than are atheists, but there are absolutely atheists who are pro-life.
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On the one hand, one simply has to look at a fetus after a given number of weeks, and it is readily apparent that this is a human being. I find it hard to imagine that an atheist could give a free pass to killing any subgroup of human beings, especially when they are absolutely innocent and defenseless.
On the other hand, abortion is the fail-safe, last-resort solution to sexual liberty gone wrong, where contraception has failed, or where a couple has surrendered to passion and the pursuit of pleasure, hoping that pregnancy didn’t occur — but it did. That’s why it’s so important for those who advocate sexual liberty, to ensure that abortion rights always remain intact. That’s also why it’s so important for them to hurry up and get to the abortion clinic, before the conceived entity becomes too undeniably human. (They also don’t want the mother to see the fetus before she has the abortion.)
Look at it this way — what kind of difficulties does it pose to an advocate of sexual freedom to say “oh, okay, if a woman gets pregnant, and if things drag out too long — if she vacillates, or if she cannot afford or get to a clinic quickly — she can always put the baby up for adoption, or raise it herself”? You tell me.
On the other hand, abortion is the fail-safe, last-resort solution to sexual liberty gone wrong, where contraception has failed, or where a couple has surrendered to passion and the pursuit of pleasure, hoping that pregnancy didn’t occur — but it did. That’s why it’s so important for those who advocate sexual liberty, to ensure that abortion rights always remain intact. That’s also why it’s so important for them to hurry up and get to the abortion clinic, before the conceived entity becomes too undeniably human. (They also don’t want the mother to see the fetus before she has the abortion.)
Look at it this way — what kind of difficulties does it pose to an advocate of sexual freedom to say “oh, okay, if a woman gets pregnant, and if things drag out too long — if she vacillates, or if she cannot afford or get to a clinic quickly — she can always put the baby up for adoption, or raise it herself”? You tell me.
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Diaconia
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Sure.
Atheists can be very good people.
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Atheists can be very good people.
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meltzerboy2
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Why not? Religion does have an influence on one’s moral values, but there are other influences in one’s life and one’s adoption of a personal moral and ethical code as well. Being an atheist does not mean one has no sense of morality.
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VonDerTann
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I was at the March for Life in DC one January and saw someone holding a big sign, “Atheists for Life.”
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OurLadyofSorrows
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Of course, anyone can be pro life or pro choice. Whether it agrees with the framework of your world or your religion is another matter.
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chercheur
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I wouldn’t normally call myself an atheist, but practically speaking it would not be too far off, especially in terms of this issue, as my views on morality are not really informed by god(s) and I don’t believe in immortal souls.
And yeah…I’m pro-life. I have known people “more atheist” than me who are as well.
And yeah…I’m pro-life. I have known people “more atheist” than me who are as well.
blackforest
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I’m not sure of the intent of your question, but can you see a reason why such a scenario would be impossible?
Atheists already join in on other human rights causes. Why not the pro-life cause, as well?
One pro-life atheist articulated to me that where she only believes in one life, it’s precious and all the more critical to protect others, including the unborn, from having it unjustly taken away from them.
Welcome to the forum, by the way.
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Aquinas11
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Atheist philosopher Stef Molyneux is pro life and offers excellent pro life arguments
“Everyone you meet, by virtue of being alive, has personally benefited from their mother choosing not to exercise a right to abortion. Thus each person who argues every woman should have the free right to abortion isn’t really being honest, are they? They don’t actually mean that they wish their mother literally had a free choice to abort them? Of course not. So this is about other mothers of other babies - they should be free to abort…cause well…that’s not me! I already made it out alive! See how this works?”
“Everyone you meet, by virtue of being alive, has personally benefited from their mother choosing not to exercise a right to abortion. Thus each person who argues every woman should have the free right to abortion isn’t really being honest, are they? They don’t actually mean that they wish their mother literally had a free choice to abort them? Of course not. So this is about other mothers of other babies - they should be free to abort…cause well…that’s not me! I already made it out alive! See how this works?”
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TK421
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Beliefs shape values, and values shape attitudes, attitudes shape actions, and actions shape the destiny of the entire world. Some argue that what a person does or doesn’t believe about some things don’t matter, but it means everything.
There are atheists who are pro-life. The reason - in my opinion - they are slimmer pickings is because without a grander scheme for life and existence it is difficult to escape a utilitarian form of thinking. Almost everybody is fine with putting a horse out of its misery if it is dying because that seems like a utilitarian and empathetic thing to do in order to end its suffering. When it comes to human beings we are very different, and that is directly related to our religious beliefs and about the bigger picture of mankind. That we’re not only creatures whose lives come and go in the blink of an eye on a cosmological scale, but that we are made for something more than that.
There are many very good secular arguments to be pro-life, but still, there is no denying that the bedrock of the movement is in religious convictions. If a person believes that as creatures we will endure for eternity, and that we are made to love on a supernatural level, then that changes how a person sees the world, radically.
There are atheists who are pro-life. The reason - in my opinion - they are slimmer pickings is because without a grander scheme for life and existence it is difficult to escape a utilitarian form of thinking. Almost everybody is fine with putting a horse out of its misery if it is dying because that seems like a utilitarian and empathetic thing to do in order to end its suffering. When it comes to human beings we are very different, and that is directly related to our religious beliefs and about the bigger picture of mankind. That we’re not only creatures whose lives come and go in the blink of an eye on a cosmological scale, but that we are made for something more than that.
There are many very good secular arguments to be pro-life, but still, there is no denying that the bedrock of the movement is in religious convictions. If a person believes that as creatures we will endure for eternity, and that we are made to love on a supernatural level, then that changes how a person sees the world, radically.
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snavemarc
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I was agnostic for a while but have always been pro-life.
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