Can Christians support genocide of fellow Christians because they are black?

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This year G.W. Bush succeeded in his 4 year campaign to have US funding of the Indonesian military resumed - is it moral to stay silent about this?

A Mar 2005 Human Rights video was aired revealing the Indonesian military is still employing Laskar Jihad & supporting Jihad military training camps, the video was also able to name the Laskar Jihad leaders and the Al Qaeda leaders with whom they claim to coordinate their own ethnic cleansing programs. This comes two and a half years after the chief of Indonesian Intelligence admitted Al Qaeda training camps were still operating inside Indonesia and supplying operatives to work with the Laskar Jihad ethnic cleansing of Christians from the Moluccas Islands conducted between 1999 and Oct. 2002. Why did the US remain silent about these camps and decide to invade Iraq instead of shutting down the known Al Qaeda network in Indonesia ?

Why have the videos from the Moluccas & West Papua pleading for help not been shown in the U.S.?

Within one week of the US announcing it was resuming its funding of this military, the Indonesians announced they were moving another 15,000 troops into West Papua to quash its Christian population that continued to demand independence and where the locals continue to raise their nations flag (Morning Star flag) despite sentences between several years jail to death for this so called act of treason which most countries consider a act of free speech.

Why has the Bush administration since Jan. 2001 fought so hard to resume US funding of this military regime ?

Can Christians support Indonesian and its policies which GW Bush is endorsing ? ? ?

I think it is a moral issue.
 
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Daeron:
This year G.W. Bush succeeded in his 4 year campaign to have US funding of the Indonesian military resumed - is it moral to stay silent about this?

Can Christians support Indonesian and its policies which GW Bush is endorsing ? ? ?

I think it is a moral issue.
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  1. Yes,it is a moral issue.
  2. NOPE, we should not stay quite…but will we more than likely.
  3. Can Chrisitians support GW Bush and what he is endorsing to do…SURE, heck they re-elected him and this is not the only killing that he is supporting.
 
I suppose that someone will research this and post “the rest of the story”. I will withhold judgement until then. As of right now, it looks mostly like an anti-Bush rant.
 
I agree with Geezer bob and will wait to hear “the rest of the story” if there is one.

I read a web page on Christian History. They claim that the Vatican had a similiar moral dilema to the one implicated in this thread. Acording to the web page when Pope Pius IX became Pope in 1846 the Church had conquered 17,000 square miles of Italian territory. They claim that because Pope Pius IX, once in office, refused to send out Vatican troops against Catholic Austrians because of the moral implications, and the Papal land empire fell.

Before Pope Pius IX, did Pope’s commit military aggression against Catholic people for Papal land aquasition? Does anyone know if what this web page is implicating is true?

Here is a link to the page: chi.gospelcom.net/DAILYF/2001/02/daily-02-11-2001.shtml
 
I personnally like to jump in with both feet before I know the whole story.

This story is irrelevent to The President because there is not much oil invloved.

Like I said all along, the Republican party has hijacked the Catholic vote by using the abortion issue. If any of you think George bush is above that kind of politics, just ask John McCain (a real man).

But I would like to thank the President for that big ol’ tax refund.
 
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I agree with Geezer bob and will wait to hear “the rest of the story” if there is one.

I read a web page on Christian History. They claim that the Vatican had a similiar moral dilema to the one implicated in this thread. Acording to the web page when Pope Pius IX became Pope in 1846 the Church had conquered 17,000 square miles of Italian territory. They claim that because Pope Pius IX, once in office, refused to send out Vatican troops against Catholic Austrians because of the moral implications, and the Papal land empire fell.

Before Pope Pius IX, did Pope’s commit military aggression against Catholic people for Papal land aquasition? Does anyone know if what this web page is implicating is true?

Here is a link to the page: chi.gospelcom.net/DAILYF/2001/02/daily-02-11-2001.shtml
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The Popes often sent armies against other Catholics - the Papacy used armed forces as early as the eleventh century.​

Lucius II was killed while besieging Rome, from which he had been expelled. Popes were often expelled from Rome.

There was a considerable amount of fighting during the Schism of 1378-1417, just as there had been earlier in the fourteenth century and during the fifteenth. It was partly because the Popes behaved no better than other Italian princes and rulers that they lost a lot of moral authority; the Reformation took place in a Europe which was sick and tired of the Popes’ using the Church’s finances to support their military undertakings, among others.

The Papacy was often strapped for cash - which was one reason for the growth of simony on a huge scale in the decades before 1520, and for the taxation of countries to service the resulting financial requirements of the Papacy. And another way of getting in money, was to contract marriages between Papal relatives and Italian princes - and this sort of project was helped by the possession of Papal armies. A drawback was, that these armies usually consisted of mercenaries - and they needed to be paid. Positions in the Church could bring in money, if they commanded sufficiently high fees, and were sufficiently numerous - but one can have only so many Papal secretaries, apostolic dataries, protonotaries apostolic, and so on. Making war on some inconveniently strong city, might be rather more promising as a money-spinner. After all, no other city in Italy had the spiritual weaponry of the Popes - they were well-off there, with excommunication, interdict, and other terrors - the original WMD, in fact 🙂 (The Reformer Zwingli was a chaplain in one of the armies of Julius II for a while.)

Not that any of this has much to do with the Gospel 🙂

fanaticus.org/DBA/battles/civitate.html

absoluteastronomy.com/encyclopedia/c/co/condottieri.htm
[There are a few obvious typos on this latter page] ##
 
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