Can God both Create and Interfere?

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I came across this article


In which it is stated, albeit tongue-in-cheekly,
“God can get the universe rolling, but can’t interfere with its functioning afterwards. “Or, after someone else gets the universe going, you can interfere, but you can’t do both,” says Wolpert. Deism is allowed, he says, but not the traditional Abrahamic God.”

But, is this true? Assuming the model presented is completely correct, would it be affected by the properties of God such as the Trinity and connections between persons?
 
Can an engineer design a machine and the change it’s inner working? Of course. I don’t see how God could create the whole universe and then not be able to tweak it if He felt like it.
 
Did you read the article which talks about the nature of information and knowledge?
 
Wolpert assumes that the Abrahamic God is merely the most powerful being among beings. A clockmaker and a tinkerer. Someone who creates once then tinkers after. A temporal actor. A bearded man in the sky. I could go on. It’s perhaps an issue with some conceptions of a personalist God. It has nothing to do with God as understood in classical theism.
 
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So you would say the conception is too low to be an adequate critique? Ie, he’s placing universal boundaries on the source of those boundaries?
 
There are a couple of things to consider.
  1. The Will of God may be open to various different paths to occur, so in a sense, it is possible they can
  2. Prayer isn’t mainly used to get stuff but as a way of establishing and maintaining the relationship between God and man.
That said, this is a separate question and unless you want to work it into the topic question, I’d appreciate if the thread were not “hijacked” by a separate question, so if it really bothers you, I would suggest starting a separate thread regarding your question.
 
Sometimes an atheists states all their objections to God, and the only thing that can be said, yes, that’s all true and I agree that this thing you object to doesn’t exist. However, that’s not what I do believe in.

Same thing. I don’t know if that answers your question, but his objection is to some being I also don’t believe in. It doesn’t apply to God as conceived in classical theism.
 
Kei said:
Inferring the Limits on Reality | plus.maths.org

In which it is stated, albeit tongue-in-cheekly,

“God can get the universe rolling, but can’t interfere with its functioning afterwards. “Or, after someone else gets the universe going, you can interfere, but you can’t do both,” says Wolpert. Deism is allowed, he says, but not the traditional Abrahamic God.”

But, is this true? Assuming the model presented is completely correct, would it be affected by the properties of God such as the Trinity and connections between persons?
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Its not true.

Firstly no reason is given in the quote as to why God cannot interfere, its just assumed that its one or the other.

Secondly, God’s will eternally echoes throughout creation. The universe responds to God’s presence because it exists in God and moves by God’s power alone. .

The universe cannot do anything without God’s power, much less exist.

The deistic conception of creation conceives of it as having its own ontology, existing and moving of its own accord regardless of whether or not God continues to exist or not. This involves a faulty metaphysics.

Thirdly, its absolutely bizarre to me that God cannot interfere with what he creates in principle. What reason is there to think that?
 
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Wolpert assumes that the Abrahamic God is merely the most powerful being among beings. A clockmaker and a tinkerer. Someone who creates once then tinkers after. A temporal actor. A bearded man in the sky. I could go on.
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Unfortunately that’s how most of the human race thinks of God including many Christians i dare to say. Lol!!!.
 
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Thirdly, its absolutely bizarre to me that God cannot interfere with what he creates in principle. What reason is there to think that?
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I too do not understand how proving that no two information machines can know everything within a universe somehow brings a restriction onto a Being outside it.
 
He should get to know the God of Abraham a little better. “I Am that I Am” .
 
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But, is this true? Assuming the model presented is completely correct, would it be affected by the properties of God such as the Trinity and connections between persons?
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God can do all things except contradict Himself. He is pure act, nothing is potential, everything is actual.

He can certainly create and interfere and perform miracles which bend his creation’s laws etc.
 
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