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migencluz
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If I buy a 2015 St. Joseph Sunday Missal in 2015, can I still use it in 2018? Because both 2015 and 2018 are Cycle B, can I reuse the missal, or will the readings switch?
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Mike_Dye
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The readings should be the same.
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tee_eff_em
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2018 will exhibit a 10th Sunday of Ordinary Time (10-Jun-2018), while 2015 will not (the first Ordinal Sunday after Easter will be the 11th, on 14-Jun-2015.
Similarly, looking ahead for instance, there will be no 31st Sunday in Ordinary Time this year, being supplanted by 1-Nov-2015 Solemnity of All Saints. There will be on 4-Nov-2018. Just off the top of my head.
I’m just sayin’.
tee
Armchair Liturgical Calendar Nerd
, Otherwise Unfamiliar With the St Joseph Sunday Missal
Similarly, looking ahead for instance, there will be no 31st Sunday in Ordinary Time this year, being supplanted by 1-Nov-2015 Solemnity of All Saints. There will be on 4-Nov-2018. Just off the top of my head.
I’m just sayin’.
tee
Armchair Liturgical Calendar Nerd
, Otherwise Unfamiliar With the St Joseph Sunday Missal
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TimothyH
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Tee is correct. The dates and readings will be all screwed up.
Advent starts Nov 29 and lasts 26 days in 2015. It starts Dec 2 and lasts 22 days in 2018.
Nov 29, 30 and Dec 1 are Advent in 2015 but ordinary time in 2018. The readings will be completely different.
This is just an example.
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Advent starts Nov 29 and lasts 26 days in 2015. It starts Dec 2 and lasts 22 days in 2018.
Nov 29, 30 and Dec 1 are Advent in 2015 but ordinary time in 2018. The readings will be completely different.
This is just an example.
-Tim-
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migencluz
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So the only time I can use a 2015 missal is if the year I plan to use it is a cycle B year that has the date and day of the week match as that of 2015?
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Beryllos
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There biggest issue is the date of Easter, which I think is determined by lunar cycles. which are not commensurate with our calendar.
Here is a table of Easter dates for this century:
Date of Easter, 2000-2099
You might be able to use the 2015 missal again in 2026 and 2037. In those years, all dates occur on the same weekdays, Easter is April 5, and all are non-leap years.
Here is a table of Easter dates for this century:
Date of Easter, 2000-2099
You might be able to use the 2015 missal again in 2026 and 2037. In those years, all dates occur on the same weekdays, Easter is April 5, and all are non-leap years.
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Beryllos
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This is complicated! Several factors have to be aligned in order for the Sunday missal to be the same:
Date of Easter, 2000-2099
It looks like the next Sunday missal you can reuse in this century is 2049, which aligns with 2055. The next one after that is 2093, which aligns with 2099.
- Both years must begin on the same day of the week
- Both years are leap years, or both are non-leap years
- The years are separated by a multiple of 3 years (A, B, or C)
- Easter falls on the same date
Date of Easter, 2000-2099
It looks like the next Sunday missal you can reuse in this century is 2049, which aligns with 2055. The next one after that is 2093, which aligns with 2099.
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tee_eff_em
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I wouldn’t say that you cannot re-use it (and I did not). Only that you cannot expect the celebrations to align perfectly (I thought it goes without saying that the dates themselves are unlikely to align).
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Joan_M
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Perhaps you should check in the front pages of your Missal to find the Table of Principal Celebrations (or some similarly titled chart).
My CT New Daily Missal has a table that covers from 2010 - 2039. It gives the Lectionaly Cycles and the dates for Ash Wednesday; Easter; Ascension; Pentecost; Ordinary Time - Before Lent and also After Easter Time and First Sunday of Advent.
With this table I can locate the correct starting points for the whole year. I’m sure your Missal has something like this. Have a look and see if it does Missals are quite expensive and I do not think any are printed just to be used for one year.
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FrDavid96
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The OP asked specifically about the 2015 St Joseph Sunday Missal. That particular Missal is printed to be used for only one year then discarded.
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tee_eff_em
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The OP also wrote
At this point, nearly halfway through the year, I’m not sure I’d advise buying a 2015 missal (though at the CBP list price of $1.97, perhaps the loss is not that great). [user]Joan M[/user] is correct, that there are “perpetual” missals which are designed for repeated use over many years, but the investment is a bit more ($20-$30) and will invaolve marking pages and “page flipping” which seems to confuse many people.
:twocents:
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FrDavid96
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I was addressing these words
“I’m sure your Missal has something like this. …I do not think any are printed just to be used for one year.”
The poster simply was not familiar with the particular missal the OP mentioned.
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TimothyH
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Pretty much, yes. Tee and Beryllos make good points.
Some readings might line up but the liturgical day would not line up with the calendar date and so you would have to figure out what the new liturgical day would be for any given date. Even then it would not line up all the time.
Are you trying to save money? It might be worth it to look into a perpetual Missal like the one from Midwest Theological Forum. Mine has a chart at the beginning which lists the liturgical days for the next couple of decades and what page they are on. You can get such a book for $50 and it will last you 20 years.
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=622761
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G_S
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If you have a Catholic calendar at home – our local funeral homes leave stacks of them in the church vestibule – you could check the calendar to see what the upcoming Sunday or Holy Day is and simply turn to that day in your missal. This would almost always work. However, if a solemnity that was not a Holy Day of Obligation or feast of the Lord lands on a Sunday in Ordinary Time – for example, if the Presentation of the Lord lands on a Sunday – you would not have those readings in your book. If you can get a one-year missal for about two dollars, it’s a better monetary deal than a fifty dollar one that lasts for twenty years. Twenty years if you’re lucky. My Book of the Gospels I received when I was ordained as a deacon sits on a shelf since there is now a new Lectionary translation. I received a beautiful Sunday/daily missal as a gift. It was expensive – about eighty dollars – but a wonderful book. Just wait for the next, new translation.
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Joan_M
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I learned something new today! I had never heard of a one year Missal before. To me, a Missal is something I treasure for decades! Thank you for the information.
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TheCatholicMan
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Sadly, the 2015 Sunday Missal is not the best Annual Sunday Missal to keep since many Sundays in Ordinary Time were replaced by several feasts and solemnities.
I have a set of annual Missals: 2008 (A), 2009 (B), 2010 (C) These may work. However, the only limitation is the Sunday of Ordinary Time AFTER Easter. Depending on the year, the number of Sundays before Lent and after may change. Therefore, 2 Sunday Readings may be missing.
However, I often take out the Order of Mass, Hymns and Prayers section and make it into my own compact prayer book with the Order of Mass, Hymns and Prayers.
God bless you this Advent.
I have a set of annual Missals: 2008 (A), 2009 (B), 2010 (C) These may work. However, the only limitation is the Sunday of Ordinary Time AFTER Easter. Depending on the year, the number of Sundays before Lent and after may change. Therefore, 2 Sunday Readings may be missing.
However, I often take out the Order of Mass, Hymns and Prayers section and make it into my own compact prayer book with the Order of Mass, Hymns and Prayers.
God bless you this Advent.
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