Can priests abbreviate a confession?--Need answer before Easter

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I am in RCIA waiting to be received into the church this Easter vigil. I made my first confession this week along with the rest of the RCIA candidates at the penance service for the parish. The service ended with individual confession, and mine did not go well. I clearly stated it was my first confession and that I was in RCIA. There was no guidance, no questions–and I floundered a bit. Scared to death, I was still determined to get everything in. Towards the end I said I had a few things that might not be sins but were weighing on my conscience–mostly failure to act in ambiguous situations. Halfway through the second item on this list, the priest cut me off and asked if I could just “sum up.” I was startled at this and became even more nervous. Unsure of what was important, I didn’t want to leave anything out, and so I said I had just three more things and he allowed me to continue. However, I don’t believe I ever completed the one in which I was interrupted. I also realized I had more left than I realized, but not wanting to annoy the priest (and maybe wanting the easy way out he seemed to be offering) I just kept it at the three and added, “and other things like that.”

It may be that the things I was confessing were not sins, but on the other hand, perhaps he was just trying to put me out of my misery as my nerves were getting the best of me. But I wonder about the validity of the confession since I did decide not to push on to the end of my list after he asked me to basically wrap it up. I don’t want to receive the Eucharist unworthily, but the RCIA program will not be offering another opportunity for confession before the Easter vigil, and I doubt I could do any better the second time. Inasmuch as they’re not particularly embarrassing, the items I left off are included at the end.

I think the adults in RCIA who had to cover 20-40 years should have had a separate time for confession, but we were put in line with everyone else to emphasize the social aspect of the sacrament, and I wonder if the time factor created the problem. Anyway, I truly don’t believe that I was taking an unreasonable amount of time considering it was my first confession.

What should I do? My intention was to make a good, complete confession, and I never had any thoughts of cutting it short had the priest not directed me to do so. Should I just keep in mind the few things that got cut off and confess them next time along with the things I honestly forgot? Or are these just matters of poor judgment rather than sins–things that should not have been confessed in the first place. I left the confessional wondering if I’d said too much or too little. I need to know before Easter vigil. Thanks in advance. The items that didn’t “make the cut” are as follows:

The one I partly explained was a situation in which I couldn’t reach my father on the phone for several days and made no further attempt to check up on him, despite my concern. He seemed to resent my previous inquires in a similar situation and we had only recently been reconciled after ten years. Mostly I was afraid because I wouldn’t have known what to do if something had been wrong, since he detested all forms of medical intervention. In fact, it turned out he was in the end stages of cancer and a neighbor found him nearly unconscious–to confirm the diagnosis I ended up giving permission for many basic tests and procedures he would not have wanted, because I felt that was in keeping with a basic duty to preserve life. I was about half way through the story when the priest asked me to “sum up.”

The second was a more recent failure to investigate a suspicious sound. My mother who lives downstairs had fallen (no injuries) and tried to conceal it. When I heard the thump I should have checked to see if she was all right, but I didn’t want to get out of the tub, get dressed, and needlessly waste a tub of hot water just to find it was my own paranoia. But ultimately I think it was selfish–I didn’t want to be disturbed.

The third was another failure to act. I inadvertently overheard a private conversation in which someone discussed what sounded like an embarrassing medical problem of a relative–it could have been an STD or it could have been a planned abortion. In any case, I prayed but did nothing else. On reflection I don’t think this was sinful because I had insufficient information.
 
I’ve also been to a crucial confession in my life in which the priest, from my point of view, was unnecessarily abrupt (and in my case harsh in his judgment). I don’t know how to answer your question in general. I do know the priest is allowed to offer guidance in the confessional, but it should be in charity.

Thomas Merton failed his first vocation and almost had a nervous breakdown when a randomly selected confessor to whom he confessed everything, and by his own admission there was a lot to confess, told him that with the state his soul was in, he could not possibly have a vocation. Priests are unevenly trained and in the old days some of them were trained to be harsh judges. Modern priests are still men and will lose patience (something they themselves will need to confess the next time). There is a huge element of psychology (there always was, though it was not called that) that not every priest will master (as if it can be mastered) or practice perfectly every time even if he is a master. Priests routinely hear a combination of blah-blah venial behavior and the occasional serious sin that is also a civil crime. In all honesty, no human can deal with that without God sitting right behind him.

Always remember, you are confessing to God through the priest. The priest may prompt, urge, and even cajole you, or on the other hand ask you to give him the short version, but his job is to hear your sins and offer God’s forgiveness. The offenses you relate sound scrupulous and trivial compared to the accumulation of mortal sin I once had to confess to get myself back into a state of grace. I know they were important to you at the time, and am sorry you were put off this way, but don’t give up because priests are human.
 
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RCIA_Candidate:
I am in RCIA waiting to be received into the church this Easter vigil. I made my first confession this week along with the rest of the RCIA candidates at the penance service for the parish. The service ended with individual confession, and mine did not go well. I clearly stated it was my first confession and that I was in RCIA. There was no guidance, no questions–and I floundered a bit. Scared to death, I was still determined to get everything in. Towards the end I said I had a few things that might not be sins but were weighing on my conscience–mostly failure to act in ambiguous situations. Halfway through the second item on this list, the priest cut me off and asked if I could just “sum up.” I was startled at this and became even more nervous. Unsure of what was important, I didn’t want to leave anything out, and so I said I had just three more things and he allowed me to continue. However, I don’t believe I ever completed the one in which I was interrupted. I also realized I had more left than I realized, but not wanting to annoy the priest (and maybe wanting the easy way out he seemed to be offering) I just kept it at the three and added, “and other things like that.”
I’m sorry you had this experience. I wouldn’t reccommend that candidates make their first confessions at these communal penance services. These services really are geared towards people who can confess their sins in less than 5 minutes, and not ask questions. Candidates often need more time then that, plus here they are done with different priests stationed around the church- there aren’t screens or confessionals. It is easy to overhear people who talk too loud (which is why I never go- I do not want the burden of keeping the seal of confession simply because someone in front of me in line can’t hear and they think nobody else can hear either), and for your first confession, a lot of people prefer going behind the screen anyway.
 
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m134e5:
I’m sorry you had this experience. I wouldn’t reccommend that candidates make their first confessions at these communal penance services. These services really are geared towards people who can confess their sins in less than 5 minutes, and not ask questions. Candidates often need more time then that, plus here they are done with different priests stationed around the church- there aren’t screens or confessionals. It is easy to overhear people who talk too loud (which is why I never go- I do not want the burden of keeping the seal of confession simply because someone in front of me in line can’t hear and they think nobody else can hear either), and for your first confession, a lot of people prefer going behind the screen anyway.
I agree. When I was running the RCIA at a parish we held the Retreat from Holy Thrsday 4PM to 11PM then again from 2PM Good Friday through 2 PM Holy Saturday at 1PM Fr. was available for Confessions for the 5 or 6 Candidates and they could leave right after Confession. Confessions for them generally went no later than 2:30 so every one usually had a good 15 minutes with Fr.
 
Br. Rich SFO:
I agree. When I was running the RCIA at a parish we held the Retreat from Holy Thrsday 4PM to 11PM then again from 2PM Good Friday through 2 PM Holy Saturday at 1PM Fr. was available for Confessions for the 5 or 6 Candidates and they could leave right after Confession. Confessions for them generally went no later than 2:30 so every one usually had a good 15 minutes with Fr.
I was always under the impression that in RCIA most of the people were un baptized. That being the case, they would have no need of confession would they? Baptism itself would take away the sins. Or I am I missing something on the process?
 
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palmas85:
I was always under the impression that in RCIA most of the people were un baptized. That being the case, they would have no need of confession would they? Baptism itself would take away the sins. Or I am I missing something on the process?
They use RCIA for everyone now–all in our group were baptized. Some are Catholic who need Confirmation, some are converting, while in my case I was baptized Catholic but received no other sacraments.
 
I had a similar experience last night at our Lenten Reconciliation Service.I also am in RCIA and am an old guy having lived a long time since being baptised at age ten.So there was a long list of remembered sins.I was nervous and as I began to go down the list my voice literally would not work.Eventually I was able to tell the priest that we had been instructed to keep it short,but if I was to cover the list it would not be brief.He said that would not be necessary and made some refrence to the story of the prodigal son (I could barely hear him) and gave me absolution.I left with a sense of releif and sense of feeling clean.Here is my question,must every sin that we can remember be itemized in a confession or is that just being legalistic?(on a first confession) Do I need to do anything more about this to be right in the eyes of our Lord ?When a protestant I had repented of these sins in the protestant manner.
 
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RCIA_Candidate:
They use RCIA for everyone now–all in our group were baptized. Some are Catholic who need Confirmation, some are converting, while in my case I was baptized Catholic but received no other sacraments.
Learn something every day. In my parish they actually have two groups, one for the candidates and one for the catechumans. What do the catechumans do in the communal services then? They obviousy can’t get absolved. Do they just ask for a blessing? That would seem to make sense.
 
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palmas85:
Learn something every day. In my parish they actually have two groups, one for the candidates and one for the catechumans. What do the catechumans do in the communal services then? They obviousy can’t get absolved. Do they just ask for a blessing? That would seem to make sense.
There aren’t enough people in our class to have two seperate groups.

I’m a candidate currently attending RCIA. I was baptized, but received no other sacrament.

Our communal penance service is this Monday. Our instructor told the catechumans they could leave when the individual confessions started.

Mainly for the reasons already stated, I don’t plan to give my first confession at the communal service. I’m sure there will be a feeling to hurry up for the next person. During class, the assistant told everyone that he only comes to confession during communal confession. I imagine there are more like that. We are supposed to get 10 extra priests to help with the lines for confession. We were told that there is no way we could or should try to confess everything during that time. I don’t like the idea of excluding some sins just for the sake of time. I’ll go during regular confession or as our priest suggested call & make an appt.
 
Okay, so how can Candidates be absolved via Confession if they haven’t received any of the Sacraments? (I am in a similar situation like RCIA_Candidate in that I have received Baptism, although I have since received the Sacrament of Matrimony via Convalidation and Penance since I’ve been going to Confession monthly since last June.)
 
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palmas85:
I was always under the impression that in RCIA most of the people were un baptized. That being the case, they would have no need of confession would they? Baptism itself would take away the sins. Or I am I missing something on the process?
In most RCIA processes here in the “Bible Belt” there is a 3 to 1 ratio three Baptized Protestants seeking to become Catholic (Candidates) to one non-Baptized person seeking to be Bpatized (Catechumen).
 
You could call and make an appointment with a priest, I would definitly try and find a different priest…call around to a different parish if need be…so sorry you had this experince.

Peace be with you…Pam
 
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palmas85:
Learn something every day. In my parish they actually have two groups, one for the candidates and one for the catechumans. What do the catechumans do in the communal services then? They obviousy can’t get absolved. Do they just ask for a blessing? That would seem to make sense.
They use the reflections to form a sense of repentance in preparation for Baptism. They have the option of going forward and talking with a priest after first explaining that they are Catechumens. So no they do not participate in a Sacramental Confession.
 
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Steve-o:
Okay, so how can Candidates be absolved via Confession if they haven’t received any of the Sacraments? (I am in a similar situation like RCIA_Candidate in that I have received Baptism, although I have since received the Sacrament of Matrimony via Convalidation and Penance since I’ve been going to Confession monthly since last June.)
The only Sacrament necessary to have access to the other Sacraments is Baptism.
 
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whitehat:
I had a similar experience last night at our Lenten Reconciliation Service.I also am in RCIA and am an old guy having lived a long time since being baptised at age ten.So there was a long list of remembered sins.I was nervous and as I began to go down the list my voice literally would not work.Eventually I was able to tell the priest that we had been instructed to keep it short,but if I was to cover the list it would not be brief.He said that would not be necessary and made some refrence to the story of the prodigal son (I could barely hear him) and gave me absolution.I left with a sense of releif and sense of feeling clean.Here is my question,must every sin that we can remember be itemized in a confession or is that just being legalistic?(on a first confession) Do I need to do anything more about this to be right in the eyes of our Lord ?When a protestant I had repented of these sins in the protestant manner.
No you don’t need to do anything about your past confession. It is required that when possible sufficient detail and accounting of sins be done.
 
To be the optimist I will take the side of the priest as say that at times it is an act of prudence of the priest to make the person do as was the OP’s experience. If the priest judges that the person is being overly scrupulous the priest is obligated for the sake of the soul of the penitent to help them overcome scrupulosity by acting in such a way as the OP describes.
 
Normally, confession is “designed” to be done by formula and fairly expeditiously.

If, for any reason, you want more time or feel you need more time, or if you want answers to questions or if some non-sin kind of doubtful thing is bothering you (and we all have those), then it would be appropriate to make an appointment for a session of spiritual direction, which can include confession and counseling and give-and-take. It would normally be conducted in the rectory office at a mutually convenient time.

After some years of hearing confessions, a priest can pretty quickly size up a penitent’s situation.

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