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I have a lot of questions about the Catholic Church and its teaching.

Do Catholics use Bibles that contain scripture that is not in Bibles used by protestants? If so what are those scriptures and what are they about?
 
I have a lot of questions about the Catholic Church and its teaching.
  1. Do Catholics use Bibles that contain scripture that is not in Bibles used by protestants?
  1. Actually many Protestants use a Bible with the same number of books (73) that Catholics have. In fact, the first KJV of the Bible contained all 73 books that Catholics have. The Protestants gave some of the books a different name, and called them ‘apocrypha’ as though they were ‘less inspired’ but they included them at first. Later, some Protestant groups ‘took them out’. But Christians had always used this ‘larger’ canon and when people started taking them out, the Church came out and told people that the ‘larger’ canon was indeed the true canon as it had been for generations.
 
I have a lot of questions about the Catholic Church and its teaching.

Do Catholics use Bibles that contain scripture that is not in Bibles used by protestants? If so what are those scriptures and what are they about?
And I believe…someone correct me if I’m wrong…those books are from the OT. But bottem line…the Church didn’t “add” books, they were removed after the reformation however you will find them in some Protestant bibles listed as the poster above me said.
 
I’ve actually shared some of these books with my Protestant friends.

My favorite of them is “wisdom” which, to me, is like Proverbs on steroids or something.

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Alan
 
True.

Catholic and Protestant Bibles have the same New Testaments. Catholics have a longer Old Testament.

As you know, what we call the Old Testament is the Hebrew Scripture. Catholic Bibles have as the Old Testament the books that were in the Greek translation of the Hebrew Scripture in use at the time of Jesus and the Apostles - the Bible they read and quoted and used when they were writing the New Testament books (that translation is known as the Septuagint, sometimes abbreviated LLX).

Protestant Bibles have as the Old Testament a shorter collection of books, based on a Hebrew translation from the 10th century (a translation refered to as the Masoretic text). The Jewish scholars who developed the Masoretic text over a three-hundred year period at the end of the first millenium rejected any materials included in the Greek translation which they did not believe had been originally written in Hebrew, so their final list (or canon) was shorter.

Martin Luther, when he did his translation into German, decided that the Jews should be considered the authorities on the Old Testament, not the Church, and so segregated the 7 books (and pieces of others) which the Masoretes had rejected at the back of the book. Early Protestant translations followed Luther’s model, grouping Tobit, Judith, Wisdom, Sirach, Baruch, 1 and 2 Maccabees and several chapters of Daniel at the end of the Old Testament. Later editions dropped those books (which made the books shorter and less costly.) Luther also wanted to shorten the New Testament canon, segregating several books which he did not believe were apostolic, but failed to persuade other Reformers of his case.

Only in the 20th century with the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls did scholars find that in fact the books rejected by the Masoretes had in fact been known in Hebrew in the pre-Christian era.
 
True.

Catholic and Protestant Bibles have the same New Testaments. Catholics have a longer Old Testament.

As you know, what we call the Old Testament is the Hebrew Scripture. Catholic Bibles have as the Old Testament the books that were in the Greek translation of the Hebrew Scripture in use at the time of Jesus and the Apostles - the Bible they read and quoted and used when they were writing the New Testament books (that translation is known as the Septuagint, sometimes abbreviated LLX).

Protestant Bibles have as the Old Testament a shorter collection of books, based on a Hebrew translation from the 10th century (a translation refered to as the Masoretic text). The Jewish scholars who developed the Masoretic text over a three-hundred year period at the end of the first millenium rejected any materials included in the Greek translation which they did not believe had been originally written in Hebrew, so their final list (or canon) was shorter.

Martin Luther, when he did his translation into German, decided that the Jews should be considered the authorities on the Old Testament, not the Church, and so segregated the 7 books (and pieces of others) which the Masoretes had rejected at the back of the book. Early Protestant translations followed Luther’s model, grouping Tobit, Judith, Wisdom, Sirach, Baruch, 1 and 2 Maccabees and several chapters of Daniel at the end of the Old Testament. Later editions dropped those books (which made the books shorter and less costly.) Luther also wanted to shorten the New Testament canon, segregating several books which he did not believe were apostolic, but failed to persuade other Reformers of his case.

Only in the 20th century with the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls did scholars find that in fact the books rejected by the Masoretes had in fact been known in Hebrew in the pre-Christian era.
Insider, thanks for this information! So are the Jews going to revise their scriptures to include the 7 books, then?
 
Yes it is true. Looking back through history, as NHInsider has already pointed out, you can see the reasons why protestant bibles and Catholic bibles are different. As a former protestant, I had not a clue as to what those books said even though I had been aware of them for some time. I just finished 1 Maccabees last night and will be starting 2 Maccabees tonight. You might find it interesting to know that many many times the deuterocanonical books or ,as protestants like to call them, the “apocryphal” books, are quoted or referenced by the authors of the new testament. That alone doesn’t mean we should look at them as inspired as only the Church had authority to make such a decision, but it is a pretty good indicator that perhaps we should read them. After all, to be more like Christ or any of the Apostles would mean to at least try to be as well read as they were…
 
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