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yellowbird
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What does the Priest say between the Our Father and “for the kingdom and the power, and the glory…”
Thank you.
Thank you.
Can someone tell me what the Priest says after we say the Our Father?
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passus
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Deliver us, Lord, from every evil, and grant us peace in our day. In your mercy keep us free from sin and protect us from all anxiety as we wait in joyful hope for the coming of our Savior, Jesus Christ.
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jhash1
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The Priest offers:
Deliver us, Lord, from every evil,
and grant us peace in our day.
In your mercy keep us free from sin
and protect us from all anxiety
as we await in joyful hope
for the coming of our Savior,
Jesus Christ.
What beautiful words. Let us all wait in “joyful hope”.!
Deliver us, Lord, from every evil,
and grant us peace in our day.
In your mercy keep us free from sin
and protect us from all anxiety
as we await in joyful hope
for the coming of our Savior,
Jesus Christ.
What beautiful words. Let us all wait in “joyful hope”.!
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mlchance
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After the prayer, Father adds the ancient Deliver Us prayer, and we respond with the doxology found in the Didache: “For the kingdom, the power, and the glory are yours, now and forever.”
See CCC 2854.
– Mark L. Chance.
See CCC 2854.
– Mark L. Chance.
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japhy
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In a couple of years, it will be re-translated more accurately as:
Deliver us, Lord, we pray, from every evil,
graciously grant peace in our days,
that, by the help of your mercy,
we may be always free from sin
and safe from all distress,
as we await the blessed hope
and the coming of our Savior, Jesus Christ.
Deliver us, Lord, we pray, from every evil,
graciously grant peace in our days,
that, by the help of your mercy,
we may be always free from sin
and safe from all distress,
as we await the blessed hope
and the coming of our Savior, Jesus Christ.
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yellowbird
Guest
Thank you! That is so beautiful.
Is that something we can pray as a family, or is a prayer that only a Priest should pray?
Is that something we can pray as a family, or is a prayer that only a Priest should pray?
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FrDavid96
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Anyone may pray that prayer at home.
I have this vague memory that the prayer originated when the barbarians were at the gates of Rome. I think it was Pope Leo the Great who composed it? (or one of the Gregories?) If anyone knows, please post.
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yellowbird
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Thank you!
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japhy
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If it’s in Archdale King’s Notes on the Catholic Liturgies, I’ll post it when I get home.
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japhy
Guest
From the book I mentioned:
The ‘Libera nos quaesumus’ (Gelasian Sacramentary, ‘Ordo Romanus’ 1), which forms the embolism, invokes peace on the Eternal City (‘da propitius pacem in diebus nostris’), possibly because the ‘pax’ was once exchanged at this point in Rome as a seal before Holy Communion, after the formal acknowledgment of a universal brotherhood. … In the Gallican liturgy the embolism varied with every Mass. The name of St. Andrew was probably inserted by St. Gregory…
Nothing about the occasion of its composition.
The ‘Libera nos quaesumus’ (Gelasian Sacramentary, ‘Ordo Romanus’ 1), which forms the embolism, invokes peace on the Eternal City (‘da propitius pacem in diebus nostris’), possibly because the ‘pax’ was once exchanged at this point in Rome as a seal before Holy Communion, after the formal acknowledgment of a universal brotherhood. … In the Gallican liturgy the embolism varied with every Mass. The name of St. Andrew was probably inserted by St. Gregory…
Nothing about the occasion of its composition.
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onelife1
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Deliver us, Lord, from every evil,
and grant us peace in our day.
In your mercy keep us free from sin
and protect us from all anxiety
as we await in joyful hope
for the coming of our Savior,
Jesus Christ
for joy and hope
and grant us peace in our day.
In your mercy keep us free from sin
and protect us from all anxiety
as we await in joyful hope
for the coming of our Savior,
Jesus Christ
for joy and hope
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Rose_Maniple
Guest
I’m quite partial to that prayer, and have used it as intercessor to conclude the Prayers of the People.
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Cluny
Guest
I’m quite partial to that prayer, and have used it as intercessor to conclude the Prayers of the People.
Which means you’re saying the same prayer twice in Mass because…
Which means you’re saying the same prayer twice in Mass because…
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JPUSC
Guest
By the way, I was wondering…is it true that the phrase, “for the kingdom and the power, and the glory…” was adapted from Protestant services?
I don’t think it’s found in the Tridentine Missal.
I don’t think it’s found in the Tridentine Missal.
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Like
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I read some where that it is from the protestants, but I can not locate it now. And, best I remember it was from a reliable source.
I never heard it used in the Church or Catholic prayer prior to the OF/NO.
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japhy
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Seeing as how those words appear in some codices of the gospels, and it’s in chapter 8 of the Didache, I would not say that it was “adapted from Protestant services”. Some Protestants treat it as “part” of the Lord’s Prayer; in the Ordinary Form, it is used as a “response” to the embolism of the priest after the Lord’s Prayer. Its (re-?)inclusion in the Mass could be seen as an ecumenical gesture.
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FrDavid96
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I checked a 1944 Missal, and “For the kingdom, and the power…” isn’t there (if it is, I don’t see it).
On the other hand “Deliver us Lord…” which is “Libera, nos quaesumus…” is there, but the words are different from what we hear in the Novus Ordo Mass (either Latin or English)
Just trying to be clear here because I can see us getting these two confused in our posts if we just use the phrase “that prayer.”
Both prayers are Catholic in origin, however as they both pre-date protestantism.
On the other hand “Deliver us Lord…” which is “Libera, nos quaesumus…” is there, but the words are different from what we hear in the Novus Ordo Mass (either Latin or English)
Just trying to be clear here because I can see us getting these two confused in our posts if we just use the phrase “that prayer.”
Both prayers are Catholic in origin, however as they both pre-date protestantism.
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