Can There Ever Be World Peace?

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Can There Ever Be World Peace?

I found this really good video.


What do you think? Can there be world peace?
 
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World peace could happen but it won’t be permanent until the End.
The secular tend to neglect the fact humans are corrupted in many things. Many think humans are sinless. Christians acknowledge our fallen state. That doesn’t mean we do nothing, it just means don’t get your hopes up on relying on our abilities. But we are still obligated to work hard for peace.
This is what stuck out:
The video seems to only consider war between nations. What about civil wars? We have a bunch right now.
The US-China example: what happens if one manages to rid itself of its heavy reliance on the other? This is actually possible.
Trade: Wars have happened due to trade imbalances where one nation has a massive trade deficit. Surpluses and deficits fluctuate and I doubt anyone can get an exact neutrality and even if that were possible, it’s highly unlikely for that to be sustained for long.
I believe when there’s a period of relative peace, some will test the limits and eventually, they’ll go too far without realizing it until it’s too late.
The assumption people with high IQs are by default rational and civilised is wrong. You can see a lot of irrational behaviours from people you’d assume are intelligent and well-educated.
 
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No, and it has been proven time and time again. Planet Earth is a battle field not a utopia or Heaven, hence Heaven is Heaven.
 
Well I was born in 1952 and in my 65 years I am pretty sure there has been conflict around the world throughout most of my life.
I don’t have a crystal ball to see the future, but I don’t think there will be world peace in my lifetime and not sure if it will ever happen.
 
I wish! 🕊️
As we human beings have difficulty even in maintaining lasting peace in our own families and little spheres of influence, I think, somehow, that left to ourselves, we are incapable of maintaining World peace, should it ever occur.

We hope and trust in God, who alone can unite us all in charity, and some of us strive for peace,
but at least we will find peace in the Communion of Saints.
 
I think humans have a tendency toward selfishness One selfish act starts out small. before you know it that one selfish act turns into something bolder, and before you know it there is a small conflict. Then these conflicts turn into bigger ones, and before you know it you have civil warfare;l so on and so forth. . I think selfishness is at the root of every problem we have ever had on the face of this planet, and as long as selfish behavior exists so to will the potential for war…

However, i think what the guy in the video was arguing for was a sort of pseudo peace. Not a peace born from good but rather a peace born from fear. I think its possible that war will become so devastating that large military conflicts will be impossible without destroying the system on which we rely. But of course, people will still be selfish.
 
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I like your post. I think you are correct. I think peace can be maintained for a while but the beast will always raise its ugly head eventually. But i do think that the more intelligent we are the less likely we will be violent for irrational reasons. But you are correct that there are those exceptions when completely reasonable highly intelligent people do irrational things .
 
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No.

Mankind is fallen, and to quote a pastor who once served in the Australian Navy during the Vietnam War, “There’ll be wars as long as Man has his feet upon the earth”.
 
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Mankind is fallen, and to quote a pastor who once served in the Australian Navy during the Vietnam War, “There’ll be wars as long as Man has his feet upon the earth”.
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AFTER CHRIST’S SECOND COMING WILL BE EVERLASTING PEACE ON EARTH

Without going into the fine details of Christ’s Second Coming:

Christ will come down from heaven with His Bride to take over Satan’s Kingdom on Earth and to rule forever over the Nations with His Bride.

Christ will rule aver the nations with the Saints/Bride of Christ/Church.

Dan.7:13-14;
13 In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven.
He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence.

14 He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all nations and peoples of every language worshipped him.
His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.

CCC 677 The kingdom will be fulfilled, then, not by a historic triumph of the Church through a progressive ascendancy, but only by God’s victory over the final unleashing of evil, which will cause his Bride to come down from heaven.
God’s triumph over the revolt of evil will take the form of the Last Judgment after the final cosmic upheaval of this passing world.

Dan.7:18;
The saints of the Most High shall receive the Kingdom, and possesses the Kingdom forever, even forever and ever.

Dan.7:21-22;
21 As I watched, this horn was waging war against the holy people and defeating them,

22 until the Ancient of Days came and pronounced judgment in favor of the holy people of the Most High, and the time came when they possessed the kingdom.

Dan.7:27;
27 Then the sovereignty, power and greatness of all the kingdoms under heaven will be handed over to the holy people of the Most High.
His kingdom will be an everlasting kingdom, and all rulers will worship and obey him.

Is.2:4;
He will judge between the nations
and will settle disputes for many peoples.
They will beat their swords into plowshares
and their spears into pruning hooks.
Nation will not take up sword against nation,
nor will they train for war anymore.

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The Berlin Wall in its time seemed one of those eternal facts of life. I had my kids later in life, and to them it is only part of history, as are the Roman Legions. There’s definitely a difference in the feel of the world between the post-Second World War era, the 60’s and now. As they say in France, “Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose.”

World peace is a utopic vision resting on a fundamental misunderstanding of who we are and why we are here. It exists solely in the mind, a vain hope that the good times will not end. We would do better focussing on the reality around us, here and now. There is so much need; let’s get out there and do something about it. There is so much turmoil within of ourselves; let’s fix that. It is our destiny, as one humanity to become more loving persons. We do that one relationship at a time.

Christ didn’t come to bring about world peace. It is untenable here where death is our individual and collective outcome, as a consequence of sin. Surrounded by nonbeing, our finiteness, we strive for power, in a vain attempt to offset the inevitable. World peace would be attainable had we chosen to put God at the centre of our will. But, we didn’t so rather than love, the concept is all about tolerance, which is very different from patience. We turn the other cheek to bring peace within ourselves and to demonstrate that there can be other ways of relating than violence and coercion. Tolerance has to do with personal power. And, in the world of social and political interaction where our boundaries overlap, tolerance can only mean distancing ourselves from one another, uncaringness, and an enabling of sin. We want what we want, and world peace as an end, is impossible without God, without love, the giving of ourselves to one another. The divorce rate climbs and there’s talk of world peace?

We don’t need world peace to find God. Actually, its absence spurs us on to move beyond some bovine bliss. A full belly, the Garden itself does not satisfy. Better to contemplate winning the lottery where someone has to win, than waste time with what is beyond our reach and not meant to be. Feed the poor, tend to the infirm, shelter the homeless and visit those who are home bound. We don’t have to be Mother Theresa. In our own way, willing the good of the other, we transform this vale of tears into something wondrous, Christ-like.
 
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THE WAY GOD WILL MAKE WORLD PEACE

The whole creation (Rom.8:19-21; Eph.1:10; Col.1:20) will be restored by recreation.

Ez.36:25-28;
25 I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean; I will cleanse you from all your impurities and from all your idols.

26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh.

27 And I will put my Spirit in you and CAUSE YOU TO FOLLOW MY DECREES and be careful to keep my laws.

28 Then you will live in the land I gave your ancestors; you will be my people, and I will be your God.

Did you notice in v. 28: (Addressed to the Nation of Israel) you will live IN THE LAND, NOT IN HEAVEN, the same principles applies to all nations as well.

Of course some members of the Nation of Israel and the other Nations are members of the Bride of Christ/Church whom Christ rules over all the Nations on Earth.

THE NEW EARTH AND THE NEW HEAVEN WILL BECOME ONE IN CHRIST

Revelation 21:2, 10, 24, 26; (NIV)
2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband.

10 And he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain great and high, and showed me the Holy City, Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God.

24 The nations will walk by its light, and the kings of the earth (Bride of Christ) will bring their splendor into it. In the brackets added.

26 The glory and honor of the nations will be brought into it.

God bless.
 
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The first clause of your sentence makes no sense. For the second clause, for me it’s more like two billion, i.e., given a particular ecological footprint that can meet basic needs.
 
Ah, the joys of posting using a phone that’s only as smart as the person using it.
Wouldn’t it be great if we heard what a person intends to say rather than what they do.
It may make no difference; sometimes what we intend to say is actually a jumble.
Not in this case tho’.

How to phrase this so that it is intelligible?
To the suggestion that there would be peace if only the population were small enough, given that we can go no smaller than the individual person, with all our inherent conflicts, I would suppose that to truly have world peace would require a population of zero. 🙂
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As revealed in the story of the loaves and fishes and as common sense (which essentially means what makes sense to me) dictates, there would be plenty enough in this world for all of us if we truly loved one another in Christ.
 
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