Can we eat pork?

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So it appears that most Christians do eat pork, although some time ago I was flicking through TV channels and watched a televangelist for a few minutes. I don’t usually make a habit of watching these non-Catholic ministers, but sometimes I am curious to see what things they say and how people in these stadiums react to it.

Anyway, there was this minister who was quoting from the Bible [as they often do] and he started talking about eating pork. He said ‘do you know that some Christians eat pork?’ Then he referred to people saying that Jesus changed the rule about pork and basically stated that he didn’t say anything about us being able to eat pork.

It made me look in to it further, as I was wondering, if perhaps he was right that nothing had changed since God said pork was unclean in the Old Testament. There is indeed no passage in the New Testament where Jesus says ‘pork is no clean, you may eat it.’

In the Old Testament, we have this quote from Deuteronomy.

“The pig is also unclean, although it has a split hoof, it does not chew the cud. You are not to eat their meat or touch their carcasses.”

There is however a passage in the New Testament, that I know many Christians who eat pork, point to.

"There is nothing outside a person that by going into him can defile him, but the things that come out of a person are what defile him.”

and

"Are you without understanding?” he asked. “Don’t you see that nothing that enters a person from the outside can defile them? For it doesn’t go into their heart but into their stomach, then out of the body.”

This is supposed to be proof that Jesus said it is okay to eat any meat - that no meat [or food in general?] is ‘unclean.’

I have however seen counter argument to this, from people who say, God does not suddenly change his rules just because he sent his son to us and they also say, these quotes are taken out of context, as the whole passage is referring to clean and unclean in terms of the washing of hands and whether you can or cannot eat food with dirty hands.

In all honesty, I don’t know what to think. I was never taught by family or the Catholic Church that eating pork is wrong, but these non-Catholic Christians who say it is wrong and making me wonder about it,
 
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After the Resurrection and Jesus sent his apostles to teach all nations… there arose controversies in the young church. Should we demand circumcision? Should we retain the dietary laws??? Peter, who was given the keys to the kingdom ans was told to feed the sheep… had a vision…

…11He saw heaven open and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners. 12It contained all kinds of four-footed animals and reptiles of the earth, as well as birds of the air. 13Then a voice spoke to him: “Get up, Peter, kill and eat!”…

If you read the rest Peter says no Lord I have never eaten unclean… the Lord says Peter what I have created is NOT UNCLEAN. (my words…)
 
Televangelist.
That was your mistake.
There is nothing in Catholicism that prohibits the consumption of pork.
 
Yes, we can eat pork. Gentile Christians are not obliged to comply with the Jewish dietary laws (Acts 15:13-29).
 
You can eat pork but do put a bit of brake on those saturated fat.
 
The fact is we find no verse in the New Testament in which Christ says: You may all eat pork now.

But.

Acts 10: 9-29.
It’s good to read the whole passage but please bear with me as I point out a couple of verses.

In verse 15 : And the voice spoke to him again the second time: That which God hath cleansed, do not thou call common.

In verse 28 Peter speaks:
And he said to them: You know how abominable it is for a man that is a Jew, to keep company or to come unto one of another nation: but God hath shewed to me, to call no man common or unclean.

So this passage refers both to foods and to men. What God hath cleansed do not call unclean.
It is not necessary for Scripture to list all the ‘unclean’ foods from the Old Testament and say of each one: this food is now permissible to eat.

Edit: I see Brittany and Petra got there before me. Kudos to you both. 🙂
 
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This was a big controversy in the early church, and was more cultural than religious. James, the leader of the church in Jerusalem and an observant Jew, was of the opinion that to become Christian, gentiles had to adhere to Mosaic Law and basically become Jewish. Paul, who was a helenestic Jew and had a different cultural background (but still Jewish) didn’t think converting to Judaism was necessary - this is the works vs faith question. Works of Mosaic Law.

I hope I got that all right, I’m still in the first cup of coffee this morning.
 
In the Old Testament, we have this quote from Deuteronomy.

“The pig is also unclean, although it has a split hoof, it does not chew the cud. You are not to eat their meat or touch their carcasses.”
again from the New Testament when Jesus drove out the Seven Demons from Mary Magdalene and they were driven into the pigs.
It was St. Paul who actually defiantly said, Don"t ask questions Eat any Meat that is sold in the market. I guess that’s why millions and zillions of Christians enjoy eating Pork especially during festivals.
 
I was never taught by family or the Catholic Church that eating pork is wrong
That’s because it’s not. God doesn’t go around banning sources of food; He’s got more important things to worry about, like how we behave towards him and our neighbor.
but these non-Catholic Christians who say it is wrong and making me wonder about it,
Non-Catholic Christians believe in a lot of stuff that the Church doesn’t teach. Are you going to wonder about every weird idea they come up with? Or trust the Church, which is guided by the Holy Spirit?
 
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As so many awesome people said, that was something that the early Church had to deal with-- if a pagan/gentile wants to follow Christ, does he first have to convert to Judaism, and follow all the Jewish religious law? The two biggest things were circumcision and Jewish dietary law, but also involved cultural things, like “no mixing fibers”, “a man needs to marry her to give his brother’s childless widow children on his brother’s behalf”, and things like that.

So, that whole thing was around AD 50, and we call it the Council of Jerusalem, but it gets spelled out in Acts 15, and Peter’s Vision gets spelled out in Acts 10.
19 “It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. 20 Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood. 21 For the law of Moses has been preached in every city from the earliest times and is read in the synagogues on every Sabbath.”
So, what ended up happening was that they kept the moral law of Judaism-- Love God, Love Your Neighbor, Honor Your Father and Your Mother, Thou Shalt Not Kill, etc, etc, etc-- and left behind the cultural law that separated the Israelites from their neighbors-- can’t eat shellfish or rabbit, and we don’t become unclean if we touch a dead thing, and we don’t follow their rules about ancestral land-ownership, and we don’t encourage our employees to consume the produce that they’re working amongst… 🙂
 
It should be noted that a lot of the customs of the Jewish people had to do with ancient perceptions of hygiene and keeping people from getting ill and spreading illnesses, hence all the rules about touching dead things or not eating certain things.

We now have more advanced knowledge of how to stay well and also have government regulatory bodies enforcing appropriate laws and disseminating appropriate information, so we don’t need a religion to keep us from getting ill.
 
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Thanks for the replies folks. I had a feeling they would all be along the lines of ‘no, it’s fine’ but was just curious if anyone else has had ever thought this in the past.
Non-Catholic Christians believe in a lot of stuff that the Church doesn’t teach. Are you going to wonder about every weird idea they come up with? Or trust the Church, which is guided by the Holy Spirit?
Nope just this one. I’m well aware of the evils the ‘reformation’ has done and I’ve heard many criticisms of the Catholic church from other Christians, about how we worship/pray to idols and ‘stupidly’ believe the communion is really the body and blood of Christ, and many other things. I believe we are correct on all these issues they criticise us of - they’re the ones who have been brainwashed in to believing the Catholic church is evil and going down the wrong path. In this particular case though, most Christians, not just Catholics, tend it eat the one supposed ‘forbidden’ meat, so what this minister on TV said wasn’t specifically an attack on the Catholic church, but on Christians in general who do this. As I said, I couldn’t find a passage in the New Testament or a Catholic church teaching that specifically said it was okay, but there are passages in the Bible that would hint that it is, as people have shown me. I just wasn’t sure.
 
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I had Baby back ribs yesterday for lunch & I’m from the South.

My thanks to Boxcar Grille in Statesville for their hospitality and delicious food on the road trip.
 
In fun, snarky YouTube format:


Relevant bits start around 1:00 mark.
 
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Horus Ruins Christmas

And

C-3PO Crashes a Pentecostal Revival

Are my favorite Lutheran Satire vids
 
They’re so blunt that they’re useful for countering obnoxious ‘internet atheist’ arguments, yet based in Scripture so as to be educational (and fun!) for Christians too. Well, traditional Christians. Sorry to our Pentecostal cousins.
 
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