Chivalry is not dead!I actually well might because after all I’ve seen in life I simply wouldn’t even consider marrying someone I didn’t have that kind of respect for.
Note that my points against that custom still stand, the bridezilla factor not the least among them.
I’m confused…did i miss a post here?? I didnt see you make any points about the custom? just something about marriage being vinculm (bwaha ha haaah i have NO idea what that word was)…I actually well might because after all I’ve seen in life I simply wouldn’t even consider marrying someone I didn’t have that kind of respect for.
Note that my points against that custom still stand, the bridezilla factor not the least among them.
May I intervene? lol This is somewhat of an old ‘inside joke’ whereby this came up in the past…about rings, and getting down on one knee, and chev (at that time) seemed put off by all of that…ALAS! He seems to agree with the idea now. Progress! :yup:
Well, my answer assumed more “usual” circomstances. No you dont’ need rings. I guess though, I can’t help but worry that they might not be ready financially even if they’re ready otherwise. That’s always a big thing to consider, $$$ is a gigantic source of stress.ewwww!! loll…lol…kick back-
ya’ll (men) dont have to ‘shell out dough’ for no one, unless you take it upon yourself to do so…or if the woman you choose to marry is totally superficial…either way the choice is yours alone…
the question was asked because a friend of mine knows that her and her spouse not only can NOT afford a proper wedding (with a hall, people attending, you know what i mean) or even RINGS…and…we were discussing it because they’re ready to take the leap, and she feels she doesnt NEED a ring, and we just wanted to know if it’d be cool…as in…ok with tradition and the church…she has a lot of respect for keeping tradition and our faith, but…just cant afford the rings!
‘take one for the team’ lmbo…i havent used that term since high school…
oh oh- lol…or remember this one?? ‘if your down you’ll do it’
It is and it’s more fun this way.Chivalry is not dead!
Wrong presumption.When you find ‘‘the one’’…you’ll see…you’ll want to demonstrate chivalrous love for her.
I discussed this point in detail once including ranting on about mediaeval nobiliary etiquette than anyone could keep reading. The point there is not chivalry understood in the right way, but the skewed popular, folk version, popularised by idiotic troubadours from certain silly parts of France. Some of those guys actually performed a seigneural homage and referred to their flames as “midons” (bastardised version of “meus dominus” in masculine grammatical gender) and this is not the worst of it anyway. Sigh. I also provided a different possible root of that custom, one that could actually be acceptable, except it would be an anachronism at the current day and age anyway (no longer a common sign of respect when greeting one’s superiors). Plus, in some instances, it makes refusal hard and you’d better not make it hard on a woman to refuse or neither of you will be happy in that relationship. I could come up with more but who cares. I say this as one of the old-fashioned dudes that still kiss hands for a greeting, which says volumes.I agree with this. I was talking about this with my husband recently…and there are SO many wholesalers out there now, that weren’t around when he proposed. You can get a STEAL OF A DEAL, like not even $500 for a beautiful diamond, or whatever you like…or just a plain band for under $100. If a guy doesn’t have $100 to buy a ring for my dd…how is he going to take care of a family? It’s not about money, but it becomes obvious. To me, and to generations back into Italy in my family, where money was hard to come by for my ancestors…those men bought their women, rings as a sign of proposal and commitment.
JCP has a nice collection!
*Try there and there. Including the part about islamic influence.
Never said. Was only talking about old-fashioned etiquette.
Chivalry is an old French word and the latter half of your sentence is a modern Anglo-Saxon feministic concept.
). The same way they wrote about wars without ever having to fight one (more or less as if a scared clumsy nerd started writing about how a marine should live his life), they wrote about chivalric ideals. Results came accordingly. Real nuts were thankfully not so plenty, but it rubbed off on the masses. here is an example of the less severe nuttery. The knight looks like he’s praying to the lady and why? Because he’s attracted to her? That’s precisely what chivalry was not about in the beginning, before things took a wrong turn.Actually, they all do. Even if they don’t respect themselves. That’s the point of it.
Don’t know what gave you the idea I had a problem there.
Of course I do, but that’s two different things.
Sounds lovely. I would never have guessed such rings would be possible to buy for such a price.