Adam S:
Sorry, this is the one area where i have to drift from official stance. This is how my logic works.
Ok. Let’s look at it.
Adam S:
God is love, and so if two people are in love, that must somehow have been given to them as a gift from God.
Oh, why “must” it? Surely if this is true, then we should allow divorce and remarriage. After all, if two people “love” each other, even though they are married to someone else, then they should be able to express that “love” in a marriage.
God may be love, but love is not God. Our love MUST be placed under the authority of God if it is to bear fruit. The gift from God is the grace to set our love in order, rather than letting it run its natural, and therefore fallen, course.
Adam S:
The biggest problem in the gay community is mass promiscuity. By marrying the couples, we stop them from being promiscuous. We also accept them into the church, encouraging them to lead good Catholic lives.
Yes, the promiscuity is well documented. But marriage has not eliminated adultery. Husbands and wives still damage each other, and their marriage, through the commission of this sin. What evidence is there that “marriage” for a homosexual pair would curb promiscuity that studies show is orders of magnitude greater in intensity than that found in heterosexuals, where adultery is with us still?
Adam S:
Also, is it fair that a couple can live in harmony with each other for years; one dies and then the other is not entitled to anything?!?
My last will and testament says who gets what after I die. Also, my affairs are so arranged, in conjunction with my wife’s affairs, so that major assets devolve as we would wish on our deaths.
These mechanisms are available to anyone. Where is the need to pervert marriage?
Adam S:
I know a gay couple, and they generally have Catholic beliefs, but go to other more liberal churches because they feel rejected by Catholicism. They are two of the most holy people you will come across, 20 times holier than i am, but they are gay and as much as they want to change that, they cant. Why cant they be together in a loving relationship? To me it doesnt make sense and isnt a very Christain stance.
For the same reason heterosexual couples can’t; it is not licit under God’s plan for our sexuality.
Once again, there is a heterosexual counterpart to this. He’s a widower, she’s a widow. His get benefits, through his late wife’s insurance and estate planning, and so does she through her late husband’s arrangements. If they marry, they lose the benefits, and couldn’t make a go of it financially. Why can’t they just shack up?
Adam S:
In order for us to move on with this we need to stop thinking of homosexuality as sodomy, we need to think about why we are denying two people who love each other the chance to be part of the Church community. I just cant see Jesus telling them they cant live that way.
Think? It’s not a thought, it’s an observation.
There’s a parody list of hymns for liberal (that is, heretic) Christians to sing which reflects their heretical faith. One title on the list is, “Take My Life and Let Me Be.” This is not the Christian path, and it cannot be what the Church is about, and it is NOT what the church is about.
The Church can never say “all sinners welcome, except [insert sin here]”. Nor can she say that, even though the deposit of the faith identifies something as sinful, we can overlook it in “this day and age,” or “based on modern findings,” or whatever. If she were to do so, she would not only betray her Master, she would deprive those who approach her of His gifts for them. Unthinkable!
Blessings,
Gerry
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