Canadian City Councillor Fined $1000 for Saying Homosexuality “not Normal or Natural”

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This Italian immigrant is a Knight of Columbus.
A Catholic city councillor in Kamloops, British Columbia, who was himself the victim of the crime of vandalism due to his faith, has been forced to apologize and pay a homosexual activist couple $1000. The couple filed a complaint with the B.C. Human Rights Tribunal which was accepted and was to go to the hearing stage.

Strangely, it was councillor who was shown true discrimination worthy of a human rights complaint. In June, the councillor opposed a homosexual pride proclamation, after which his barber shop was vandalized with “Homophobia Die” scrawled on the door of his business.
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What did John DiCicco say to get him into so much trouble?
[sign] he described homosexual acts as “not normal and not natural”[/sign]
lifesite.net/ldn/2007/jan/07011902.html
 
Marilena said:
well, so much for freedom of speech. :rolleyes: iam surprised the owner of the shop didn’t file a human rights complaint for the inscription on his door.:confused:
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This has been a powerful method that gay activists use to get people who disagree with their lifestyle to back off - call them bigots and homophobes! It’s emotional blackmail at it’s worst and it’s disingenuous. Now you can get jailed or fined for speaking the truth.
 
Rosalinda said:
This Italian immigrant is a Knight of Columbus.

What did John DiCicco say to get him into so much trouble?
[sign] he described homosexual acts as “not normal and not natural”[/sign]
lifesite.net/ldn/2007/jan/07011902.html
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Perhaps the pope needs to cut off diplomatic relations with that butchery of a “nation,” if you want to call it that, no matter how loosely it fits the term. Let the rest of the world follow suit, provided that any have the guts to do so.:mad: :mad: :mad:
 
Canada needs a First Amendment. The protections of the First Amendment regarding freedom of speech, religion and assembly are probably the greatest break on the abuse of governmental power other than, perhaps, the concept of the separation of powers.
 
rr1213 Canada does have a first ammendment in her Constitution:
[sign] **1. **The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society[/sign]

Believe it or not, Canada is a nation under God:
[sign]Whereas Canada is founded upon principles that recognize the supremacy of God and the rule of law[/sign]

Her fundamental freedoms are as follows:[sign]
a) freedom of conscience and religion; b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication; c) freedom of peaceful assembly; and d) freedom of association.[/sign]
Supreme Court judges later expanded this clause to include “sexual orientation”.
15. (1) Every individual is equal before and under the law and has the right to the equal protection and equal benefit of the law without discrimination and, in particular, without discrimination based on race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, sex, age or mental or physical disability.
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laws.justice.gc.ca/en/Charter/index.html#garantie
A prominant member of Parliament and homosexual activist, Svend Robinson, at one time tried to delete the supremacy of God clause. He failed. Nevertheless, he succeeded in passing the homosexual hate crime bill C-250.
lifesite.net/ldn/2004/apr/040428d.html
 
I really do not like to call myself a Canadian…I think I’ll find a new identity
 
Rosalinda said:
rr1213 Canada does have a first ammendment in her Constitution:
[sign] **1. **The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society[/sign]

Believe it or not, Canada is a nation under God:
[sign]Whereas Canada is founded upon principles that recognize the supremacy of God and the rule of law[/sign]

Her fundamental freedoms are as follows:[sign]
a) freedom of conscience and religion; b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication; c) freedom of peaceful assembly; and d) freedom of association.[/sign]
Supreme Court judges later expanded this clause to include “sexual orientation”.

laws.justice.gc.ca/en/Charter/index.html#garantie
A prominant member of Parliament and homosexual activist, Svend Robinson, at one time tried to delete the supremacy of God clause. He failed. Nevertheless, he succeeded in passing the homosexual hate crime bill C-250.
lifesite.net/ldn/2004/apr/040428d.html
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That’s great, but apparently it’s not working that well if the OP is correct. The First Amendment in the US actually does serve as a significant barrier to governmental interference with free expression.
 
they do have rights that are protected under the law here, but we also have a right to freedom of speech as is also protected under the law, but the laws here regardign freedom of speech are very rigoursly enforced. while i do not cut anyone down and ridicule them, the person who stated that it was immoral or wrong is caught up in a vicious cycle because he did violate the constitution, but on the other hand, he didn’t because the law protects his freedom of speech, but that is obviously not the case here. the government doesn’t really care about the persons right to free speech. so in effect, our speech is not free at all. the punishments im canada for hate crimes are very serious. no one escapes it either.

i don’t like hate speech or downgrading someone no matter what their sexuality is, but on the other hand, if i want to state that i think being gay is an abomination to God which it is, that is the truth, but the truth doesn’t protect your rights here
regarding freedom of speech.

it makes you wonder what this country has come to. the morals in this country are ever on a downward spiral. it makes one sick to the stomach.
 
Generally speaking, even “hate speech” is protected speech in the US under the First Amendment. Don’t get me wrong, legislators are constantly trying to prescribe such speech but those prescriptions usually get cut down in the Courts.
 
I know that as I teach Comparative Religion classes at a secular college I run the risk of losing my job every day. If I were in Canada I would also lose what little savings I have.

I still think that secularism is an even greater enemy of the Church and God’s truth than is Islam, though I dislike both.

CDL
 
Give me a break. Canada is really getting out of control with the whole homosexual issue. I sure am glad I never immigrated to Canada like I used to want to do. Homosexuality is not normal or natural and I would say that regardless of the risk of fine. :mad:
 
CHCatholic said:
I really do not like to call myself a Canadian…I think I’ll find a new identity
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As others have pointed out above, structural barriers put in place centuries ago are what prevents the same from occuring in the United States. So far, no one has been able to do an end run around the First Amendment on this issue. But people are trying and not without some sucess (college speech codes, giving special legal protection to homosexuals, banning the Boy Scouts from a county park and some High Schools etc…etc).

So Canada is not unique. Should the barriers in place further crumble, as I suspect they will, we will see more restrictions, albeit it in perhaps a more cloaked form, on speech in America than in Canada.
 
Awe poor guy. It seems at the rate things are going, Catholics will be pushed underground in Canada in my life time.

On the other hand, the gay issue gets a lot of play here. Canada really is a great nation, and for the most part it’s great. That is, unless you want to call the act of homosexuality anything other than natural and fantastic, your probably facing the human rights tribunal. But in most other cases we’re alright… I guess.
 
When observing a society, the quickest way to find out who wields the greatest power is to notice who it is forbidden to say anything against.
 
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