Canadian MPs vote against raising age of sexual consent

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Conservative MP’s attempt to raise the age of consent has failed, with a resounding defeat in the House of Commons.

When Conservative MP Rick Casson’s bill was put to a vote Wednesday night, 99 parliamentarians voted in favour of increasing the minimum age of consent for sex by two years, to 16.

Another 167 MPs voted against the bill.

Under existing law, 14-year-olds can legally have sex in Canada. Casson wanted the minimum age raised to 16, in the hope that increasing the scope of the law would protect children from sexual predators.

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From United Mothers, Fathers and Friends.

Parliament Fails to Raise the Age of Consent

**“In this document, as hard as it is to believe, the minister [Cotler] argues against raising the age of consent because of potential costs associated with increased prosecution of such cases….Throughout debates in the House of Commons examining C-313, the Minister of Justice repeatedly trivialized this issue by referring to it as ‘puppy-love’ when the real issue is providing meaningful protection for the most vulnerable members of our society - our children….The Minister of Justice told the House and the public that this bill was unacceptable because it would have criminalized teens then he turned around and told the Liberal caucus that there was in fact a close-in-age exemption to protect teens involved with other teens…how can the Minister of Justice make two contradictory statements and be telling the truth?” **
  • MP Rick Casson’s reaction in the House of Commons to a leaked official memo outlining Justice Minister Irwin Cotler’s position opposing C-313
Thank you to the thousands of you who wrote and called your MP on such short notice. Unfortunately, on Wednesday, September 28, the second reading vote on Bill C-313 was defeated in the House of Commons by a vote of 167 – 99. Had this bill become law, it would have raised the age of consent from 14 to 16 years of age and ensured that Canada’s children were further protected from predators.

Unfortunately, the vote results were not surprising considering that it was a whipped vote for the Liberals. To the credit of several Liberal MPs, a few of them broke ranks to vote in favour of the bill.

**5) **Justice Minister Cotler’s Reasons for Not Raising It

Justice Minister Cotler tried to spin the bill’s defeat in terms of not wanting to criminalize acts between teenagers, which he referred to as “puppy love.”

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The criminal Code already exempts from prosecution those closely related in age. Had Cotler felt that these exemptions were not sufficient, he could have added clarification at the committee stage.

Furthermore, Cotler explained that current laws offer sufficient protection and that the bill would do little to stop predators. This is surprising considering that the Canadian Police Association, child protection organizations, and all of Canada’s justice ministers support raising the age of consent because they believe it will further protect children from predators.

**6) **How Did Your MP Vote?

It was a free vote for the BLOC, Conservatives and NDP. All of the Conservative MPs voted in favour of raising the age of consent, except for Perth-Wellington, Ontario MP Gary Schellenberger. The entire BLOC voted AGAINST raising the age of consent, as did most of the NDP. However several NDP MPs, including party leader Jack Layton, supported the bill.
 
To see how your MP voted ON Bill C-313, visit the official government website HANSARD record and SCROLL DOWN TO DIV. 160

parl.gc.ca/38/1/parlbus/chambus/house/debates/127_2005-09-28/HAN127-E.htm#SOB-1387411

TAKE ACTION: MPs Need to Hear from You

**“Why does this Government have millions of dollars for golden handshakes for patronage hacks but doesn’t have enough funds to protect our kids from predators?” **

- MP Rick Casson

If there is no public outcry, what will politicians think? Please take a few minutes to let your MP know what you think of his vote and that the age of consent is still an issue that needs to be addressed to protect children from predators.

Call your MP - (Remember to leave your name, phone number, and address. You can phone anytime, 24 hours a day, and leave a message.)

MP Contact information:parl.gc.ca/information/about/people/house/PostalCode.asp?Language=E

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Question: The age in the US is 16, but 18 year olds still cant have sex with anyone under 18, right? And 16 year olds cant have sex with anyone under 16? And its illegal to have sex under 16 but if youre both 15 neither can be prosecuted, right? So…is it the same in Canada? Because when I think sexual predator, i think a grown man, in which case sex with a 14 year old would still be rape right? Not that Im condoning 14 year olds having sex, but I dont think this makes them in danger of sexual predators?
 
Actually, someone over 18 can have sex with someone who is only 16 depending on local state laws.
 
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siamesecat:
Question: The age in the US is 16, but 18 year olds still cant have sex with anyone under 18, right? And 16 year olds cant have sex with anyone under 16? And its illegal to have sex under 16 but if youre both 15 neither can be prosecuted, right? So…is it the same in Canada? Because when I think sexual predator, i think a grown man, in which case sex with a 14 year old would still be rape right? Not that Im condoning 14 year olds having sex, but I dont think this makes them in danger of sexual predators?
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I believe that the age of consent applies to being able to have sex with an adult.

It is so messed up!

A 14 year old can legally have sex with a 40 year old man.

But, if she wants to marry him, she cannot do so until she is 16 but only with parental consent. She must be 18 to marry him legally of her own free will.

So, she can decide to open herself up to STDs and pregnancy at 14, but is not allowed to make the decision to marry until she is 18.

I am ashamed to be canadian at moments like these:nope:

Malia
 
Hi All,

Weeks before the bill, EGALE, a pro-homosexual lobby group with strong connections to the Liberals, issued a press release which lambasted the proposed bill as discriminatory against those involved in intergenerational love. That’s sex with minors for the rest of us. Henceforth there was very little discussion amongst the national media about the bill. The little there was lauded Irwin Cotler’s puppy-love comments, which I hope are recorded and stored next to his ‘no protection for the religious’ & ‘no polygamy’ utterances which are sure to haunt us Canadians for the forseeable future.

Of course we now have ample evidence with which to attack the Liberals and hopefully win the next election. Many of my friends voted Liberal because they were concerned whether Stephen Harper might divide the country. We know have a more divided country than ever before, and even, amazingly, less rights!
 
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siamesecat:
Question: The age in the US is 16, but 18 year olds still cant have sex with anyone under 18, right? And 16 year olds cant have sex with anyone under 16? And its illegal to have sex under 16 but if youre both 15 neither can be prosecuted, right? So…is it the same in Canada? Because when I think sexual predator, i think a grown man, in which case sex with a 14 year old would still be rape right? Not that Im condoning 14 year olds having sex, but I dont think this makes them in danger of sexual predators?
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Yes, there are laws protecting two people closely related by age. That moron Irwin Cottler said there wasn’t any as one of the reasons for not passing the bill, but then turned around and admitted there was, so basically he’s either an idiot or he outright lied. Worse, law enforcement officials had backed the bill and reported cases where Americans were crossing the border to have sexual relations with 14 year olds.
Colm O'Higgins:
Weeks before the bill, EGALE, a pro-homosexual lobby group with strong connections to the Liberals, issued a press release which lambasted the proposed bill as discriminatory against those involved in intergenerational love.
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This really makes me sick, I’ve been warning people over and over again that they are making way for the legitimization of pedophilia. People will only wake up when they reduce the age for working in pornography to 14 years. The Canadian courts have even been lax about prosecuting child pornographers, groups had kept bugging the Liberal government about it to which they responded something like, “Please, stop bothering us about child pornography, as right now we are too busy trying to legalize same sex marriage and decriminilize marijuana…” I swear… I really feel like pulling some stunt like a pie in the face or something if I ever get too close to some of these people. :mad:
 
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