Cardinal Arinze on the Liturgy - in Detroit

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DWPC said:
The Archdiocese of Los Angeles is holding a liturgy seminar in a few weeks…maybe Cardinal Arinze could drop in. If any bunch is in desperate need of a kick in the liturgical pants, they are.
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Which reminds me…

Cardinal Arinze did mention during the talk, that there is no need for people to sit around and “plan the liturgy” for several hours. In fact, he says it doesn’t need any planning at all - just follow the GIRM.

Read the black; do the red.

I’m hoping this thread can stay on track for recalling specific comments made during the talk, rather than getting sidetracked into many other discussions which could truly be within their own threads.
 
Lux_et_veritas said:
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Cardinal Arinze was in Detroit this morning, discussing the liturgy. Was anyone from Catholic.com there? If so, how about throwing in some good discussion points. Out of a sell-out crowd of 750, I figure there must have been people from Catholic.com at this event.

I was glad to hear him talk about the need for gestures in our worship, in particular kneeling and bowing. He also discussed sitting, processing, standing, but focused heavily on kneeling and genuflection.

The GIRM calls for all of these things and he really hit the point home by reminding us that it is our Creator that we stand before. We ought to be willing to crawl to Him, or to prostrate ourselves before Him. We should not be afraid to kneel or genuflect before the tabernacle, when we see the light.

I’m sure a few in the audience were probably wanting to say…

“But, your Eminence, the tabernacle at my Church is in a side room!”

It gives new meaning to “Where have they put my Lord”

I will have a series of posts going up on my blog - perhaps only 2 or 3, depending on how other pictures came out.

Here is a direct link to the first one, with an additional pic. Use the home page in my sig to check for more.
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Do you think that Cardinal Mahoney out in Los Angeles is looking forward to a vist from Cardinal Arinze??
 
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Cardinal Arinze was in Detroit this morning, discussing the liturgy. Was anyone from Catholic.com there? If so, how about throwing in some good discussion points.
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Your cooperation in staying on topic is requested.

Please do not hijack the thread by attempting to use it as an opportunity to air your vents on individual bishops/dioceses…
 
palmas85 said:
Do you think that Cardinal Mahoney out in Los Angeles is looking forward to a vist from Cardinal Arinze??
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AND

Cavaille-Coll, " If I were a certain auxiliary bishop from that city, I would be quaking in my boots at the mention of Arinze’s name. "

Why do you folks think these dissodents have anything to fear from Arinze? Do you honestly think that any disciplinary action will be taken against them? They have been well known mass abusers for decades and nothing is every done.

Arinze is “calling for” reform. Redemptionis Sacramentum “called for” reform. Everbody and their brother are “calling for” reform. This feel good phrase is only a pacifier. Until we end the false notion of collegiality and start seeing the anathema’s and excommunications these are just words. Oh wait, I forgot, excommunications are reserved for traditionalists.
 
Pax vobiscum!

Is there anywhere online that I could listen to this talk or read a transcript of it?

In Christ,
Rand
 
Rand_Al_Thor said:
Pax vobiscum!

Is there anywhere online that I could listen to this talk or read a transcript of it?

In Christ,
Rand
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Working on it. I have requested that Holy Trinity Apostolate add the text of the scripted part to their website. But, you won’t get any of those quips from the Cardinal on that. However, his main talking points are there. If they don’t list it, I’ll likely be typing it out myself and putting it on my blog - a labor intensive thing at about 7-8 fully type-written pages.

I have also asked if the apostolate could offer the CD’s, DVD’s, and VHS tapes through their website. I have not heard back. If anyone knows Barbara personally, you may want to talk to her and see if she is willing to put this material on her web. I don’t know how crowded her inbox is, but haven’t had much luck getting a response.
 
Lux_et_veritas said:
If anyone knows Barbara personally, you may want to talk to her and see if she is willing to put this material on her web. I don’t know how crowded her inbox is, but haven’t had much luck getting a response.
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I will see Barbara on Monday evening. I’ll ask her about the plans to sell the CD’s and DVD’s on the website (even if it’s just posting a pdf of the form for people to mail in). Not sure if there was any plan for a transcript… I’ll follow up in this thread when I know.
 
Timmay said:
I will see Barbara on Monday evening. I’ll ask her about the plans to sell the CD’s and DVD’s on the website (even if it’s just posting a pdf of the form for people to mail in). Not sure if there was any plan for a transcript… I’ll follow up in this thread when I know.
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Hi Timmay - not a transcript, but the actual written speech that was handed out (or sitting on the table in the back that I picked up on the way out).
 
I wanted to attend the event very badly but could not. I am pleased to learn that the recordings might become available!

Did His Eminence Cardinal Arinze come in just for the event and leave immediately afterward? Or, were there sightings around town…at Assumption Grotto or Saints C&M, perhaps? Did he spend some extra time with His Eminence Cardinal Maida in the newly “renovated” Cathedral or did they keep him away from there intentionally? 😉
 
**As has been noted earlier, this thread is for the purpose of discussing the talk by Cardinal Arinze recently given in Detroit and has gone on to offering information on obtaining transcripts or CD’s of it.

While a number of other discussions have been introduced, please be kind enough to use this thread to discuss remarks of that talk or obtaining information regarding it.

To that end, a series of posts which did go off topic have been split from the thread and can be found here:

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?p=1556335
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msproule said:
IDid he spend some extra time with His Eminence Cardinal Maida in the newly “renovated” Cathedral or did they keep him away from there intentionally? 😉
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Cardinal Arinze arrived on Friday and was the guest of Cardinal Maida at the Cathedral Rectory for the duration of his stay in Detroit.
 
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