Cardinal Dolan in trailer for Martin Luther documentary

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My suggestion. Ignore completely and avoid breaking any Canon laws
 
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Thank you for sharing this.

We are now right at 60 days from the opening of the year-long joint Catholic-Lutheran Commemoration of the 500th anniversary of the Reformation by Pope Francis and Bishop Younan of the LWF in Lund, Sweden.

It is wonderful to see the American contributions, such as through initiatives like this, for this epic moment in Church history.

en.radiovaticana.va/news/2016/06/01/pope_to_take_part_in_reformation_events_in_lund_and_malm%C3%B6/1234020

en.radiovaticana.va/news/2016/01/25/pope_to_travel_to_sweden_for_joint_reformation_commemoration/1203462
 
Don_Ruggero said:
Thank you for sharing this.

We are now right at 60 days from the opening of the year-long joint Catholic-Lutheran Commemoration of the 500th anniversary of the Reformation by Pope Francis and Bishop Younan of the LWF in Lund, Sweden.

It is wonderful to see the American contributions, such as through initiatives like this, for this epic moment in Church history.

en.radiovaticana.va/news/2016/06/01/pope_to_take_part_in_reformation_events_in_lund_and_malm%C3%B6/1234020

en.radiovaticana.va/news/2016/01/25/pope_to_travel_to_sweden_for_joint_reformation_commemoration/1203462
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Unless it involves full communion with the One True Holy Catholic Church, it’ll have been a complete waste of time. However, let’s be optimistic and praise to the Holy Father for trying to achieve this.

Anything else is heresy
 
Prodigal_40s said:
Unless it involves full communion with the One True Holy Catholic Church, it’ll have been a complete waste of time. However, let’s be optimistic and praise to the Holy Father for trying to achieve this.

Anything else is heresy
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I hate these “all or nothing” positions. There are probably a near infinite number of steps that will bring us closer. And even if this particular event doesn’t lead to forward movement, it doesn’t absolve anyone from trying.

Jesus didn’t wait for the woman to meet him at the Temple. He met her at the well.

Tom A.
 
meteoric said:
I hate these “all or nothing” positions. There are probably a near infinite number of steps that will bring us closer. And even if this particular event doesn’t lead to forward movement, it doesn’t absolve anyone from trying.

Jesus didn’t wait for the woman to meet him at the Temple. He met her at the well.

Tom A.
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That’s the Catholic Church. Church teaching is what it is.

Regarding trying, I said just that and I praised the Holy Father for doing so. You’re absolutely right about meeting people but that doesn’t mean capitulation to their religion or adapting the Catholic faith to suit them.

What you “hate” is of no consequence. The Catholic Church is what it is and we are meant to bring people into communion with the Catholic Church. If we don’t achieve this in whatever time it takes, it’s a waste of time. I hate having to repeat what I’ve just written
 
Prodigal_40s said:
Cardinal Dolan is in this so draw your own conclusions
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The involvement of Cardinal Dolan could only indicate what a worthy and worthwhile project it is…one deserving of esteem since it had received his patronage.
 
Prodigal_40s said:
Unless it involves full communion with the One True Holy Catholic Church, it’ll have been a complete waste of time. However, let’s be optimistic and praise to the Holy Father for trying to achieve this.

Anything else is heresy
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Ut Unum Sint with certain point placed in bold:

*42. It happens for example that, in the spirit of the Sermon on the Mount, Christians of one confession no longer consider other Christians as enemies or strangers but see them as brothers and sisters. Again, the very expression separated brethren tends to be replaced today by expressions which more readily evoke the deep communion — linked to the baptismal character — which the Spirit fosters in spite of historical and canonical divisions. Today we speak of “other Christians”, “others who have received Baptism”, and “Christians of other Communities”. The Directory for the Application of Principles and Norms on Ecumenism refers to the Communities to which these Christians belong as “Churches and Ecclesial Communities that are not in full communion with the Catholic Church”. This broadening of vocabulary is indicative of a significant change in attitudes. There is an increased awareness that we all belong to Christ. I have personally been able many times to observe this during the ecumenical celebrations which are an important part of my Apostolic Visits to various parts of the world, and also in the meetings and ecumenical celebrations which have taken place in Rome. The “universal brotherhood” of Christians has become a firm ecumenical conviction. Consigning to oblivion the excommunications of the past /…/

In a word, Christians have been converted to a fraternal charity which embraces all Christ’s disciples. /…/

It needs be reaffirmed in this regard that acknowledging our brotherhood is not the consequence of a large-hearted philanthropy or a vague family spirit. It is rooted in recognition of the oneness of Baptism and the subsequent duty to glorify God in his work. The Directory for the Application of Principles and Norms on Ecumenism expresses the hope that Baptisms will be mutually and officially recognized. This is something much more than an act of ecumenical courtesy; it constitutes a basic ecclesiological statement.

It is fitting to recall that the fundamental role of Baptism in building up the Church has been clearly brought out thanks also to multilateral dialogues.*
 
Don_Ruggero said:
Ut Unum Sint with certain point placed in bold:

42. It happens for example that, in the spirit of the Sermon on the Mount, Christians of one confession no longer consider other Christians as enemies or strangers but see them as brothers and sisters. Again, the very expression separated brethren tends to be replaced today by expressions which more readily evoke the deep communion — linked to the baptismal character — which the Spirit fosters in spite of historical and canonical divisions. Today we speak of “other Christians”, “others who have received Baptism”, and “Christians of other Communities”. The Directory for the Application of Principles and Norms on Ecumenism refers to the Communities to which these Christians belong as “Churches and Ecclesial Communities that are not in full communion with the Catholic Church”. This broadening of vocabulary is indicative of a significant change in attitudes. There is an increased awareness that we all belong to Christ. I have personally been able many times to observe this during the ecumenical celebrations which are an important part of my Apostolic Visits to various parts of the world, and also in the meetings and ecumenical celebrations which have taken place in Rome. The “universal brotherhood” of Christians has become a firm ecumenical conviction. Consigning to oblivion the excommunications of the past /…/

In a word, Christians have been converted to a fraternal charity which embraces all Christ’s disciples. /…/

It needs be reaffirmed in this regard that acknowledging our brotherhood is not the consequence of a large-hearted philanthropy or a vague family spirit. It is rooted in recognition of the oneness of Baptism and the subsequent duty to glorify God in his work. The Directory for the Application of Principles and Norms on Ecumenism expresses the hope that Baptisms will be mutually and officially recognized. This is something much more than an act of ecumenical courtesy; it constitutes a basic ecclesiological statement.

It is fitting to recall that the fundamental role of Baptism in building up the Church has been clearly brought out thanks also to multilateral dialogues.
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This from the Catechism?
 
Hopefully during this celebration of the Reformation, someone from our Catholic faith will be reaffirming the Truth of the Catholic faith.
 
I won’t be celebrating it. No siree, I think a Rosary in reparation is order.
 
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