CARM and how mean Evangelicals are to Catholics

[Canterbury]

Are there Roman Catholics here familiar with CARM? They really treat Roman Catholics badly. I fought a long time to stop CARM from calling the RC Church a cult, but I think they paid little attention to me because, after all, I’m high church Anglican. On behalf of all Anglicans, everywhere, I apologize for the treatment Roman Catholics have received on CARM.

 

[Tis_Bearself]

We’ve had quite a few threads, including recent ones, on CARM and how they don’t like Catholics over there. So this isn’t really new news.

Anti-Catholic bias exists in the world. You’re better off just avoiding the hotbeds of it on the Internet and praying for those people.

It’s kind of you to apologize, but not really necessary if you’re not the one doing the bashing. I don’t go around angry at other faiths because of nasty Internet sites. Most Anglicans I meet are nice people.

 

[Canterbury]

I resigned from CARM. The problem as I see it with CARM is that they teach that one must acknowledge a certain type of soteriological teaching to be saved, and not simply belief in the real Jesus Christ, Second Person of the Godhead, God manifest in the flesh. Anglicans, too, believe that a true faith is manifested in a life reflecting Christian virtues, not just mere intellectual assent. I just wanted to bring this up because it has bothered me a very long time, and I find some of the greatest apologetic papers against Mormonism have been penned by Roman Catholics. I once was given an infraction for saying that Roman Catholicism was NOT a cult. Not a good place for anybody to post, let me tell you.

 

[Tis_Bearself]

As a high church Anglican, you likely have much more in common with the Catholic faith than Evangelicals do. That is why the Church focuses quite a bit on trying to build bridges with the Anglican Church. It’s a more realistic goal for unity, one that I would like to someday see fully achieved.

 

[Canterbury]

I know Canterbury has good relations with Rome, and there is even an Anglican litany allowed in the RC Church. I am a “charismatic” Anglican, and my early experiences in that religious realm were at a Franciscan monastery in NJ, where charismatics from many backgrounds shared in joint worship. One of the most compelling religious experiences I have ever taken part in. God was there, regardless of some differences. I left the Episcopal Church after they began ordaining women “priests” and homosexuals. I am a “continuing” Anglican, which means an American Anglican worshiping outside of the confines of heretical Episcopalianism.

 

[Cor_ad_Cor]

CARM is also not representative of the average Evangelical, either. I certainly wouldn’t rely on them to understand most of my Protestant brothers’ and sisters’ opinions or beliefs.

 

[Tis_Bearself]

I left the Episcopal Church after they began ordaining women “priests” and homosexuals. I am a “continuing” Anglican, which means an American Anglican worshiping outside of the confines of heretical Episcopalianism.

Yeah, I had a hard time figuring out why back in my hometown we suddenly had a new Anglican church sharing space with the Lutherans, when there is a large Episcopalian church that’s been there forever in the same town a little distance away. Some Anglicans on here explained it to me. The Episcopal cathedral there had a dean who was female, openly gay, living with her partner, and was in the news for blessing an abortion clinic. That was too much even for me.

 

[Canterbury]

You are exactly right. And we have to remember, that in order to keep the ball rolling along they have to have cultists posting. When you think about that, it seems to motivate a lot of tolerance of unchristian views.

 

[CTBcin]

I am a “continuing” Anglican, which means an American Anglican worshiping outside of the confines of heretical Episcopalianism.

Good luck! As someone who has an appreciation for Anglican tradition, I know how much of a mess things are for Anglicans worldwide right now.

 

[Canterbury]

Well, when I moved to this State after my husband died, there was no Anglican Church, only Episcopal Churches. So I went to the local Episcopal Church to see how it was - and, oh my, it was pretty bad. Then, I knew that they had a “Latino Ministry” Mass on Sunday afternoons. Since I’m pretty good at Spanish, I started attending it - and the priest was wonderful. If you went to that Mass, in fact, you’d think you were in a Roman Catholic Church. So, that’s where I go, and I’ve never heard that priest utter a word of heresy or compromise with sin at all. He’s from South America. He captains a tight ship. If anything saves the Episcopal Church from being consigned to the trash heap of cults, it will be the Latinos who have preserved the old traditions and morality of the Church. I am not a Latino (I’m Danish in fact), but they have accepted me - I’m the only “gringo” who goes there, and I think they appreciate that I do. I also believe that is where I can help people best since my background is in social work. Furthermore, the Latinos have a devotion to the Blessed Mother and so do I. There is a shrine to Our Lady of Guadalupe there, and also an altar to the Blessed Mother - so that is another reason I go there. Many Episcopal Churches have discarded devotion to Mary, and that is such a horrible pity. She is, after all, the Theotokos in Whom God resided.

 

[Odilon]

Not a place where I would want to waste my time.

 

[Canterbury]

You are right, it takes perseverance that’s for sure. Read my post about how I ended up in a Latino Episcopal Mass. Now, I admit, I’ve thought of simply becoming Roman Catholic, don’t get me wrong. And maybe that will happen someday.