Catholic cardinal allowed non-Catholic ordination in his cathedral?

[Jessie5000]

If this true, I applaud the Bishop. There are numerous places where Catholics and Anglicans share facilities. I find nothing wrong with hospitality. We could use more Catholic clerics like this Bishop as he is wise and shares with others - a real christian virtue.

 

[TheWarriorMonk]

I could see permission being given to use the Church for certain events that the Church would consider valid, such as marriage and Baptisms. For female ordinations and other events that would incur automatic excommunication to the parties involved, or events that could result in scandal…I think that should be avoided at all costs.

 

[EvangelCatholic]

For example, there are no Lutheran cathedrals * in America. Ordinations of several candidates or groups need more space than the typical Lutheran congregation can accommodate. Since there is full communion with Episcopalians, probably most ordinations occur in their fine cathedrals. But also Catholic cathedrals; I am sure that the blessed Sacrament was not moved away from the tabernacle *

 

[Peter_J]

For example, there are no Lutheran cathedrals * in America. Ordinations of several candidates or groups need more space than the typical Lutheran congregation can accommodate. Since there is full communion with Episcopalians, probably most ordinations occur in their fine cathedrals. But also Catholic cathedrals; **I am sure that the blessed Sacrament was not moved away from the tabernacle ***

That’s up to the bishop as well, the way I see it. In any case, I’d hope that Lutherans/Anglicans/Methodists etc wouldn’t be offended if the Eucharist is, in fact, moved for the occasion.

 

[EvangelCatholic]

That’s up to the bishop as well, the way I see it. In any case, I’d hope that Lutherans/Anglicans/Methodists etc wouldn’t be offended if the Eucharist is, in fact, moved for the occasion.

Why in the world or in heaven would you remove the presence of Christ?

 

[Peter_J]

Why in the world or in heaven would you remove the presence of Christ?

Same kind of reasons that a bishop might decide to say “No” outright: lack of unity, differences of belief (particularly beliefs about the Eucharist).

 

[EvangelCatholic]

Same kind of reasons that a bishop might decide to say “No” outright: lack of unity, differences of belief (particularly beliefs about the Eucharist).

We are believe the Real Presence of Christ is there in the Tabernacle. Forgive me but some posters act like fellow Christians are to be feared.

 

[PRmerger]

Why in the world or in heaven would you remove the presence of Christ?

Because no one who’s Methodist would acknowledge His presence with due adoration. It’s almost impossible to have Catholics do this and it’s our teaching that He is there!

 

[fbl9]

We are believe the Real Presence of Christ is there in the Tabernacle. Forgive me but some posters act like fellow Christians are to be feared.

But there is a vast difference in the how Christ is present.

 

[Peter_J]

We are believe the Real Presence of Christ is there in the Tabernacle.

Right (I note that you are Lutheran), I was speaking with respect to lending a church building to non-Catholic Christians in general. Of course, reasoning would vary from one situation to another.

 

[Peter_J]

Forgive me but some posters act like fellow Christians are to be feared.

*Sometimes *that’s actually a good idea – just ask the Orthodox about the Union of Brest (or read a thread about it).

 

[Peter_J]

P.S. I can’t say I entirely blame you for feeling this way,

Why in the world or in heaven would you remove the presence of Christ?

I recall that, when I first heard about Catholics removing the eucharist from the tabernacle before lending a church building to protestants, it struck me as a pretty strange thing to do. But after some time reflecting on it, it began to make sense to me.

Keep in mind that I’m not speaking of joint Catholic-Lutheran (or Catholic-Methodist, or Catholic-Anglican etc) services. For ecumenical gatherings held in the Catholic church, I think it’s entirely appropriate for the Eucharist to be in the tabernacle*. But not for a Lutheran (or Anglican, etc) event that happens to take place in a Catholic church.

• Of course, I’m sure there are many Catholics (particularly of the “traditionalist” variety) who would even object to that – or rather, would oppose such a gathering taking place, period.

 

[RyanBlack]

Because no one who’s Methodist would acknowledge His presence with due adoration. It’s almost impossible to have Catholics do this and it’s our teaching that He is there!

I think you’re correct on the basics of the explanation you’re offering. However, there are indeed some Methodists who do believe that the Holy Eucharist is indeed the body and blood of our Lord, and would acknowledge his presence appropriately.