Catholic Church's views on Gay Marriage

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I’ve been wondering for awhile, what are the Catholic church’s views on gay/lesbian relationships and marriage? I am a practicing Catholic lesbian and I have never been in a relationship with a guy. Not even once. Neither have I ever had the desire to try it. If I get married I plan on marrying a woman. Am I doing something wrong? Will I really end up in hell?
 
What country are you from and how old are you?

Not trying to be funny, but the Church’s stance on homosexual acts is very well known, so it’s interesting to find somebody who totally has no idea…
 
It is pretty hard to be a practicing catholic and a sexually active gay person. The Catholic Church teaches that homosexuality is a disordered desire and calls gay people to live celibately.
So gay marriage isn’t accepted as marriage is between woman and man for sanctification, companionship and the propagation of our species.
 
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Yes, its a very grievous sin to have same sex relationships,same sex marriages is not allowed in the Catholic Church, marriage is only between Man and women,which helps in procreation. repent and make a good Confession, try to lead a holy life,yes if you continue in such relationship you’ll end up in hell ,Jesus is merciful till your last breath of your life, but soon one day you’ll have to see him as divine Judge.Come back while there is still time. Jesus love you and your precious in his eyes, so come back like the prodigal son in Luke 15 God Bless

As St Paul says in Romans 1: 24 Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the degrading of their bodies among themselves, 25 because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen.
26 For this reason God gave them up to degrading passions. Their women exchanged natural intercourse for unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men, giving up natural intercourse with women, were consumed with passion for one another. Men committed shameless acts with men and received in their own persons the due penalty for their error.

28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind and to things that should not be done. 29 They were filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, covetousness, malice. Full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, craftiness, they are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, rebellious toward parents, 31 foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32 They know God’s decree, that those who practice such things deserve to die—yet they not only do them but even applaud others who practice them.

Jude:7 Likewise, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which, in the same manner as they, indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural lust,serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire.

8 Yet in the same way these dreamers also defile the flesh, reject authority, and slander the glorious ones, 17 But you, beloved, must remember the predictions of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ; 18 for they said to you, “In the last time there will be scoffers, indulging their own ungodly lusts.” 19 It is these worldly people, devoid of the Spirit, who are causing divisions. 20 But you, beloved, build yourselves up on your most holy faith; pray in the Holy Spirit; 21 keep yourselves in the love of God; look forward to the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ that leads to[[n]] eternal life. 22 And have mercy on some who are wavering; 23 save others by snatching them out of the fire; and have mercy on still others with fear, hating even the tunic defiled by their bodies.24 Now to him who is able to keep you from falling, and to make you stand without blemish in the presence of his glory with rejoicing, 25 to the only God our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, power, and authority, before all time and now and forever. Amen.
 
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Continuation …

1 Thessalonians 4:1 Finally, brothers and sisters,we ask and urge you in the Lord Jesus that, as you learned from us how you ought to live and to please God (as, in fact, you are doing), you should do so more and more. 2 For you know what instructions we gave you through the Lord Jesus. 3 For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you abstain from fornication; 4 that each one of you know how to control your own body in holiness and honor, 5 not with lustful passion, like the Gentiles who do not know God; 6 that no one wrong or exploit a brother or sister in this matter, because the Lord is an avenger in all these things, just as we have already told you beforehand and solemnly warned you. 7 For God did not call us to impurity but in holiness. 8 Therefore whoever rejects this rejects not human authority but God, who also gives his Holy Spirit to you.

THE SACRAMENT OF MATRIMONY

1601 "The matrimonial covenant, by which a man and a woman establish between themselves a partnership of the whole of life, is by its nature ordered toward the good of the spouses and the procreation and education of offspring; this covenant between baptized persons has been raised by Christ the Lord to the dignity of a sacrament **1605 Holy Scripture affirms that man and woman were created for one another: "It is not good that the man should be alone."92 The woman, “flesh of his flesh,” his equal, his nearest in all things, is given to him by God as a “helpmate”; she thus represents God from whom comes our help.93 "Therefore a man leaves his father and his mother and cleaves to his wife, and they become one flesh."94 The Lord himself shows that this signifies an unbreakable union of their two lives by recalling what the plan of the Creator had been “in the beginning”: "So they are no longer two, but one flesh."95
 
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This questions is more complex than just “does the church condemn homosexual acts?” for sure!

The way the Catholic Church views marriage (all marriage) is that it is a sacramental bond designed to unify and sanctify parents as they produce and raise children. The order, then, of marriage, is on the propagation of offspring. Simply put: those who are not called to have children, are not called to be married. Period. End of story. (Yes, there are complicated situations like infertility that are more nuanced… that’s a general statement).

That said, homosexual relationships fall in the same category as any other relationship where the members are not open to the creation of life… that is why there’s no position to be had on gay marriage: without the openness to creation of life, there is no marriage (gay, straight, or otherwise). People who “marry” with no intention of creating life are abusing the nature of marriage: they consume the emotional support and physical benefits of marriage while denying the obligations of marriage that said environment is supposed to create. This places a burden on the other spouse to provide for the happiness of the other… but devoid of cause.

So all that means that anyone, anyone at all, not called to creation of life is called to celibate service to the community.
 
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Yes, its a very grievous sin to lead such life which does not lead to procreation
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It is not a sin to not procreate. Many many people are called to Holy Celibacy rather than marriage and children. The sin is in utilizing the sexual faculty in a lustful manner (as a means to achieving self-pleasure) rather than as it is appropriately ordered.
 
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http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c2a6.htm

Offenses against chastity

[2351] Lust is disordered desire for or inordinate enjoyment of sexual pleasure. Sexual pleasure is morally disordered when sought for itself, isolated from its procreative and unitive purposes.

**[2352] By masturbation is to be understood the deliberate stimulation of the genital organs in order to derive sexual pleasure. "Both the Magisterium of the Church, in the course of a constant tradition, and the moral sense of the faithful have been in no doubt and have firmly maintained that masturbation is an intrinsically and gravely disordered action."138 “The deliberate use of the sexual faculty, for whatever reason, outside of marriage is essentially contrary to its purpose.” For here sexual pleasure is sought outside of "the sexual relationship which is demanded by the moral order and in which the total meaning of mutual self-giving and human procreation in the context of true love is achieved."139

To form an equitable judgment about the subjects’ moral responsibility and to guide pastoral action, one must take into account the affective immaturity, force of acquired habit, conditions of anxiety or other psychological or social factors that lessen, if not even reduce to a minimum, moral culpability.

2353 Fornication is carnal union between an unmarried man and an unmarried woman. It is gravely contrary to the dignity of persons and of human sexuality which is naturally ordered to the good of spouses and the generation and education of children. Moreover, it is a grave scandal when there is corruption of the young.

**[2354] Pornography consists in removing real or simulated sexual acts from the intimacy of the partners, in order to display them deliberately to third parties. It offends against chastity because it perverts the conjugal act, the intimate giving of spouses to each other. It does grave injury to the dignity of its participants (actors, vendors, the public), since each one becomes an object of base pleasure and illicit profit for others. It immerses all who are involved in the illusion of a fantasy world. It is a grave offense. Civil authorities should prevent the production and distribution of pornographic materials.

**[2355] Prostitution does injury to the dignity of the person who engages in it, reducing the person to an instrument of sexual pleasure. The one who pays sins gravely against himself: he violates the chastity to which his Baptism pledged him and defiles his body, the temple of the Holy Spirit.140 Prostitution is a social scourge. It usually involves women, but also men, children, and adolescents (The latter two cases involve the added sin of scandal.). While it is always gravely sinful to engage in prostitution, the imputability of the offense can be attenuated by destitution, blackmail, or social pressure.
 
There is no such thing as gay marriage it may be called that by society but it is not marriage it is something else, a union of sorts, not marriage. I am sure that is covered above, just putting it simply. You are called to a single life if you are Catholic and gay, that is the long and short of it. In fact all people who are gay are called to single life, they just dont realise it and so live in sin, poor people. God bless you.
 
Ash said:
I’ve been wondering for awhile, what are the Catholic church’s views on gay/lesbian relationships and marriage? I am a practicing Catholic lesbian and I have never been in a relationship with a guy. Not even once. Neither have I ever had the desire to try it. If I get married I plan on marrying a woman. Am I doing something wrong? Will I really end up in hell?
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I am sorry to doubt you but you say you are a practicing Catholic, and do not know the Church’s position on the issue. I find that hard to believe.
 
I am trying To figure out how you can be a lesbian and a practising catholic unless of course your are celibate. But then you mentioned if you were to marry you would marry a woman.

I am sorry but a marriage between 2 women is not a marriage.
My understanding is that you cannot be in a sexual lesbian relationship and be catholic
However you can be a celibate lesbian and catholic
 
The issue with using terms like straight, gay, or lesbian is it’s saying that who you find sexually attractive is your fundamental identity. That is false. Everyone’s fundamental identity is a son/daughter of God.
 
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The issue with using terms like straight, gay, or lesbian is it’s saying that who you find sexually attractive is your fundamental identity. That is false. Everyone’s fundamental identity is a son/daughter of God.
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Why is it that for someone to say they’re gay it’s a statement about their fundamental identity? If someone says that they’re a Red Sox fan or a Baptist or an American or perhaps an Irish American, or Little Joey’s grandpa, etc. are they also making statements about their fundamental identity? When someone says that they’re gay, that is more likely just one of many different aspects of their identity, not their “fundamental identity”.
 
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Ash said:
I’ve been wondering for awhile, what are the Catholic church’s views on gay/lesbian relationships and marriage?
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Marriage is something, and the definition of what marriage is in reality is something that pre-dates all nations and religions. In the Catholic Church, Jesus raised marriage to the level of a sacrament, but marriage existed before the Church and it still exists for those who are not Catholic.

Marriage is not something we create a definition for as if it were merely some social construct we are free to define however we wish. We cannot change the definition. Rather, we must simply recognize what marriage actually is in the same way that we recognize what photosynthesis is.

So what is marriage? Marriage is a covenant relationship between a man and a woman that is ordered to the well-being of the spouses and the procreation and upbringing of children.

Marriage between two people of the same sex is ontologically impossible. Whatever the relationship is—and there’s no doubt that there are many same-sex couples who feel strong feelings of devotion and loyalty to each other—a same-sex relationship will never be considered a “marriage” under that classic definition.

Yes, many if not most people in our society today do think it’s possible for us to change the definition to be whatever we want it to be. And they would say that same-sex marriage is possible and ought to be celebrated.

That is not the Catholic position. That will never be the Catholic position. The Catholic position is the definition above (which I pretty much stole from the glossary to the Catechism).

The Church cares for all people regardless of beliefs. And the Church asks all of us to treat one another with love, dignity, and compassion. That certainly also holds true for how we treat those with same-sex attraction. It still holds true for those gay couples who decide to get “married” under civil law. We’re all sinners in need of a Savior. We don’t want to single out those who enter gay marriages as if they are the worst of all human beings. That is not true.

But, we also can’t pretend that it’s no big deal for people to act in contradiction to reality (i.e. the reality of what marriage actually is).
 
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Not trying to be funny, but the Church’s stance on homosexual acts is very well known, so it’s interesting to find somebody who totally has no idea…
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That was my initial thought, too…although I suppose it’s possible. But to identify as a Catholic, yet not know the teaching and/or know to just grab a catechism?
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It is not a sin to not procreate.
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It is also not a sin to be infertile.
 
@Ash

Can you explain a little more what your background is? It’s strange to many of us that you identify as Catholic yet do not understand the very fundamental teaching on sexuality. Did you attend CCD? Were you baptized? Confirmed?
 
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