Catholic Solidarity in the 21st Century

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I’d make this a poll if we had one, and if I could come up with a few good options; but, instead, I will just ask…

In your opinion, when it comes to the divides we have within the 21st Catholic Church, what would you do to restore solidarity in the Church?

The best I can fathom is we always just fall back on the option of forgiveness to maintain peace when conflicts arise. But how to do as such when people disagree over fundamentals?
 
Honesty, IMO, wait for the “Destructive Generation” to pass away (and I am of that generation), and wait for the CINOs (Catholic In Name Only) to leave when the heat gets too hot from the secular culture. Then the excellent young priests and young faithful coming up can begin to repair 50 years of damage and dissent, with the help (yes) of the coming persecution.

Maybe not the answer you were looking for? 🙂
 
I think there needs to be dialogue between the priests, bishops, archbishops, etc. and the parishioners.
The Church belongs to all of us Catholics.
We must all be allowed to have a saw in the Church that means do much to us.
I do not believe we will ever agree on all the little things like Latin, certain rituals and music. But, we believe in the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
At this point, we must first pray for help from God. All things are possible through God. We are stewards of the Church. The divides we face are divides caused by men and women. We can work together to make things better.
 
Honesty, IMO, wait for the “Destructive Generation” to pass away (and I am of that generation), and wait for the CINOs (Catholic In Name Only) to leave when the heat gets too hot from the secular culture. Then the excellent young priests and young faithful coming up can begin to repair 50 years of damage and dissent, with the help (yes) of the coming persecution.

Maybe not the answer you were looking for? 🙂
I guess I don’t think that wishing / waiting for death and desertion is much of an answer. Nor is condemning an entire generation. Most of what we’re going through now wasn’t done by a “generation,” but by ministers of the Church itself.
 
Honesty, IMO, wait for the “Destructive Generation” to pass away (and I am of that generation), and wait for the CINOs (Catholic In Name Only) to leave when the heat gets too hot from the secular culture. Then the excellent young priests and young faithful coming up can begin to repair 50 years of damage and dissent, with the help (yes) of the coming persecution.

Maybe not the answer you were looking for? 🙂
I’ve been thinking about your statements since asking the question.

I’m glad you replied, and I can empathize with you in a way. But, when I put your response in perspective, I dont think you understood the question. But maybe it is that I dont understand what you meant, so let me try to review what’s being said here.

What you are proposing sounds like a sort of “scorched earth” policy, but the means by which you would burn off the chaff would be to “stop” and “wait”, specifically for a generation of heathens to die away; and, then, when secular culture turns up the heat on the church, CINO’ will leave. Then the good Priests will come forward. You didnt cite any scripture of Theological justification for the claims, but it’s possible one could form scriptural parallels.

There’s a couple of problems in what you are saying, however; both with respect to my question and with respect to our general state of affairs as a church.

With respect to the question, it might not have been clear enough, but - to clarify - what could we do to restore solidarity in the church right now?

The call of the questions seeks two things: 1.) action in the present moment, and 2.) solidarity.

With respect to #1, to wait and do nothing in this day and age would only allow opponents (companies and governments, entities as large as Google or Russia or China, for instance) to gain a stronger foothold and create a whole new larger set problems, which would effectively weaken what we have by a generation and then some.

With respect to #2 - Catholic solidarity is by nature specifically inclusive, whereas your answer is generally exclusive. For instance, assume the people you are calling CINO are blinded because they think they know something. You’re saying you would “exclude” such people by skipping a generation - which would actually be impossible because they would still talk about whatever it is they think they know. The main point is, however, Christ’s came as an itinerant teacher, whose universal mission was one of salvation and mercy, which he carried all the way to Golgotha and beyond to this present day. Christ even would have forgiven Judas, the son of destruction, if Judas had not himself turned away; so great was Christ’s wish to save everyone, He offered no resistance to it. So CINO’s, whatever that means, are likely people Christ would have invited into and engaged in a dialogue, as we see repeatedly throughout the Scriptures. Thus, obeying His Father’s will, He would have immutably and eternally saved and sustained whoever He could have, especially anyone who the Father drew to Him.

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I think what was more to the point of my question is - what actions we could take to improve solidarity within the church in the here and now.

If I have misunderstood your statements, then I apologize, so feel free to clarify your meaning. But it does seem to me waiting would probably only make things worse, and it would lose us the opportunity to do a lot of good. People can and will always leave if and when they want, but my question here is what could we do to unite in fellowship in order to pray for salvation through Jesus.

Peace.
 
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My short answer is that I don’t think there is anything in particular that we can do that can help improve solidarity here and now. The Church is too divided, and has been for at least 2 generations now. I’m sure there are always small improvements that can be made around the edges for given locales, but for the Church as a whole, I just don’t see it. Well, maybe a scorched earth policy against all clerics who have committed or enabled sexual abuse might help a good deal, but that’s mostly out of our hands. But I feel that your question is like asking, on New Year’s day 1860, what can the northern and southern states do to improve solidarity. Some things are beyond earthly fixing in time scales less than many, many decades. I wish it weren’t so, but I’m just telling you how I truly see our situation.
 
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