Catholic version of "the end times"

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I was raised Southern Baptist and I still have a very Fundamentalist view of the end times, rather ‘Left Behind’-ish I’d imagine, although I haven’t read the books.

Can someone help me understand what the Catholic version of the events in Revelations are understood as?

My DH was trying to explain this to me but my head is still stuck in Protestant world! I need help! 😃

Thanks very much!!
 
Since this is a post, you only get the very short and abbreviated version on the end times. First of all, Jesus will return only once, and His return will be at the end of time to judge the living and the dead. The rapture (i.e. believers being caught up in the air) will take place at the end of time and not before.

All pre-tribulation and mid-tribulation believers look at 1 Thess 4:15-17 where it says that “For this we declare to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord,*** shall not precede those who have fallen asleep***. For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the archangel’s call, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first; then we who are alive, who are left, shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and so we shall always be with the Lord. Left Behind theology uses this and a few other verses to justify their end time’s interpretation. The problem is that they fail to note that the verses say that the “dead shall rise first.”

In John 6:54 Jesus says, “he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.” Also in John 12:48 Jesus says that, “He who rejects me and does not receive my sayings has a judge; the word that I have spoken will be his judge on the last day.” Then in John 11:24 we read, “Martha said to him [Jesus], “I know that he will rise again in the resurrection at the last day.” So it’s clear from these passages that judgment day, the last day, the resurrection of the dead, and the rapture are all the same day. The rapture is to be understood as an honor granted the living who are saved to meet the Lord as He returns triumphantly to earth, and not as a secret taking of believers to heaven prior to the end of time.

There are also problems with the Left Behind believers in how they look at Matt 24:34-41 which says “Then two men will be in the field; one is taken and one is left. Two women will be grinding at the mill; one is taken and one is left. They interpret these verses as the rapture. Instead this set of verses as well as the companion verses in Luke 17:26-36 point out something quite different than the Left Behind series would lead you to believe. It is clear, from the context, that the people that are taken are those that are being punished and this is made clear by the analogy to the days of Noah and the days of Lot and how “the flood came and took them all away.” Read all of these verses carefully and you will see this connection clearly, and you will see that those who are taken are not raptured to heaven.

John Martignoni has a great tape on this subject that you can order for $5.00 mailing fee from biblechristiansociety.com. I hope this is enough to get you started. I’m sure that additional posts will fill in some more of the blanks.
 
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Naphali:
I was raised Southern Baptist and I still have a very Fundamentalist view of the end times, rather ‘Left Behind’-ish I’d imagine, although I haven’t read the books.

Can someone help me understand what the Catholic version of the events in Revelations are understood as?
You have raised a question is that very thorny. Because Revelation is a book that is not easily understood. But the basics of Catholic beliefs about the end times are more easily understood.

Basically the Catholic teaching about the end times is very simple:


  1. *]Christ will come with all his angels and saints.
    *]Christ will catch all souls, good or evil up to himself.
    *]At this time all souls will be judged before Christ (called the Second Judgment or General Judgement), the good and the evil.
    *]There will be no rapture and punishment of the unrighteous, then some of the unrighteous will be saved, then the newly saved will also be raptured up - like some Tribulation doctrines teach.
    *]The Second Judgement will be merely a public confirmation of the personal judgement each soul will have already undergone.
    *]At the personal judgement of the soul, the eternal destiny of the soul will be decided - not at the Second Judgement (see above).

    These are the basics about the end times. Here is a document about the end times, from a (unofficial) Catholic perspective: catholic.com/library/Rapture.asp

    If you have deeper questions than this, I would go to the Ask An Apologist Thread on this Board.

    As far as the Book of Revelation (no “s”), goes, this book points to past, present and future events, that are hard to interpret because of they symbological language. So if you want a Catholic Perspective on this, I would refere to the following audio tapes: ewtn.com/vondemand/audio/seriessearchprog.asp?seriesID=1177649850&T1=Revelation
    My DH was trying to explain this to me but my head is still stuck in Protestant world! I need help! 😃
    DH? I don’t know what a DH is…😉
 
There is a good overview here:

kofc.org/rc/en/publications/cis/publications/veritas/Veritas_CIS351.pdf

The important thing to realize is that Revelations is written in a specific style (Jewish Apocalyptic) and is not written strictly as a guideline for historical events. Rather it symbolizes some historical events (some of which have already happened) and describes spiritual events as well. Beware of those who would have you read it literally or look for clues in current events about the specific signs, and remember none of us know when our own personal end time may be (God forbid, I could be hit by a meteorite tomorrow) so as far as our souls are concerned we should treat each day as if it might be our last.

On that note there is a story about St. Francis. Apparently he was tilling a garden, and an aquaintence came up and asked him what he would do, if God granted him the knowledge that today would be his last day before Judgement. St. Francis simply replied “I would finish tilling the garden.”

May we all strive to be so prepared each day to meet our Maker.
 
Let me abbreviate it even more…

There will be one, be ready…🙂
 
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As far as the Book of Revelation (no “s”), goes, this book points to past, present and future events, that are hard to interpret because of they symbological language. QUOTE]

Just as a cranky aside, thanks for making the point that the book of Revelation is singular rather than plural. It always sets my teeth on edge when I hear that. :mad:
 
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