Catholic vs Orthodox?

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Are you Orthodox or eastern Catholic? And I give the Protestants credit for converting to Orthodoxy, I was a Protestant and I’m now home in the Catholic Church, I was leaning towards the Orthodox Church but I found Catholicism to be the truth! 🙂
I am currently Eastern Catholic. Though I’ve stuck my head in the Orthodox world for a time now to take a peek 😉
 
I am currently Eastern Catholic. Though I’ve stuck my head in the Orthodox world for a time now to take a peek 😉
Awesome! Which Sui Juris Church? I was going to become Maronite but found my way home in the Roman Church.
 
Dear Cavaradossi,

I will be posting a thread soon in the ECF entitled “Blachernae, Florence and causality” in which I hope to garner your comments.

Blessings,
Marduk
 
Dear Cavaradossi,

I will be posting a thread soon in the ECF entitled “Blachernae, Florence and causality” in which I hope to garner your comments.

Blessings,
Marduk
Why not keep the discussion here? I am too preoccupied at the moment to have my attention split between multiple threads.
 
The initial reason for the schism between the two Churches was initially based on Western attempts to assert authority over the East (whether this was legitimate or not is the great debate), but over the last two centuries some very major issues regarding the faith, through dogmatization of certain practices by the Catholic Church, have come to the fore (at least from the Orthodox perspective).
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I disagree. While there are real theological differences between the two churches I firmly believe that politics had MUCH MORE to do with the Schism than did the theology…even the theology behind authority.
 
Why not keep the discussion here? I am too preoccupied at the moment to have my attention split between multiple threads.
OOPS! Sorry, already done. I will ask a mod to split our specific posts in this thread to the one in the ECF (later today, that is). I appreciate your patience and understanding. Perhaps we can continue the discussion after the posts have been transferred?

Btw, the reason I wanted to split off the post was because I wanted to discuss the decree of Florence.

Blessings,
Marduk
 
I am trying out different churches. I have tried Catholic, Lutheran, Baptist, Methodist, and Non Denominational. There’s just one more that I want to try, the Orthodox Church. As of now, I am leaning heavily on Catholicism, but I still want to try the Orthodox Church. I am quite familiar with how Catholic Mass works, so here are my questions.

1: How are the teachings different between the two?

2: How is the Mass at the Orthodox? What do you have to do?

All answers are greatly appreciated!
The Orthodox liturgy holds A LOT of mystical elements that determine how everything is don. If you don’t study what is going on you will perhaps be completely lost at the processions, the numerous ektenias, the entrances etc. A lot goes on behind the altar as well and the priest is constantly reciting prayers in preparation for each part of the mass while the Deacon, the choir/ chanters and the people are singing or doing something else.

Because it is much longer, you will have parishes where people just come and go or they show up just towards the end which is something that bothered me immensely.
You may also come across Orthodox parishes where no one receives Communion as some hold to a teaching that frequent Communion is not desirable. Their fasts are also very intense and take up about half the year (Lent, Christmas fats, the Apostle’s fast the Dormition fast etc. And we are talking fasting with no dairy, meats or meat br-products. You also have to fast with no food or water from the night before Communion.

Another striking difference is their resembaknce to many Judaic aspects. The Old Testament is quite prevalent, along with some of it’s not so charitable laws I. E some don’t want to pray with or for their enemies, the woman is considered impure after she five birth so she is not allowed to attend the Litrugy for 40 days after a delivery, in some parishes woman can’t receive Communion while on their menses etc), their God is still very similar to the Old Testament God and as such they are always fearing the last judgement, His punishments, His wrath etc. There is a lot of Don’ts, a lot of “I’m unworthy”, “I the terrible sinner” in their prayers and services. Their asceticism on the one hand makes them proud (it’s hard not to fall into spiritual pride when you do much more fasting and prayer than everyone else) and it also makes them forget that above all, God loves His children.

In the States I didn’t find it so bad, in Eastern Europe however, wow!

Lastly, a central part to Othodoxy is Anti-Catholicism. In going to their Bible studies and participating in thei social circles I was so disheartened to see how much anti-Catholicism fuels what they do and hownthey do it,

I do appreciate the richness of Orthodox tradition but to be honest, in practice, it is following the letter, not the Spirit of the Law.

Oh, and might I add, there is no centralized teaching so one priest will tell you contraception in marriage is ok, another will say it depends on the circumstances, another will tell you you are going to hell . Likeise with many other subjects.
 
Because it is much longer, you will have parishes where people just come and go or they show up just towards the end which is something that bothered me immensely.
I’ve been to (only) two different Eastern Orthodox Divine Liturgies in the U.S., and it happened at both times. It bothered me, too, but I’ve been told that is not suposed to happen. But perhaps it does happen frequently. I am actually surprised that someone else has the same observation.
You may also come across Orthodox parishes where no one receives Communion as some hold to a teaching that frequent Communion is not desirable.
Yes. I’ve met EO who say that infrequent communion makes the Eucharist more appreciated.
You also have to fast with no food or water from the night before Communion.
That’s the prescription in all the apostolic Churches, AFAIK.
Another striking difference…In the States I didn’t find it so bad, in Eastern Europe however, wow!
My thoughts exactly. In the States, EO’xy is rather less austere in its theology. However, the austerity is certainly patristic in its origin.
Lastly, a central part to Othodoxy is Anti-Catholicism. In going to their Bible studies and participating in thei social circles I was so disheartened to see how much anti-Catholicism fuels what they do and hownthey do it.
I know the Greek Orthodox in Europe are like that. And I can imagine there is still acrimony in Eastern Europe over fears of uniatism.
Oh, and might I add, there is no centralized teaching so one priest will tell you contraception in marriage is ok, another will say it depends on the circumstances, another will tell you you are going to hell . Likeise with many other subjects.
I wouldn’t say there is no centralized teaching. It’s just that Catholics have more centralized teaching than the EO.

Blessings,
Marduk
 
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