Catholics And Immigration

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Republican congressmen Jim Sensenbrenner, Henry Hyde, and Pete King have sent an open letter to the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops. An excerpt:

Since the House bill’s passage, many have misconstrued the House’s good-faith effort to bring human traffickers to justice as a way to criminalize humanitarian assistance efforts. The House bill does no such thing, nor did it intend to.

We can assure you, just as under current law, religious organizations would not have to “card” people at soup kitchens and homeless shelters under the House bill’s anti-smuggling provisions. Prosecutors would no sooner prosecute good Samaritans for “assisting” illegal immigrants to remain in the U.S. under the House bill than they would prosecute such persons for “encouraging” illegal immigrants to remain in the U.S. under current law, which has existed for nearly 20 years.

Nonetheless, we stand willing to work with you and other persons of good will to ensure humanitarian assistance efforts are not mistakenly ensnared in this moral effort to end suffering at the hands of human traffickers. We remain optimistic this goal can be achieved.

Lastly, we know many of you are concerned about the House bill’s provision making illegal presence a felony. We share that concern. As you should know, during the House debate, Chairman Sensenbrenner offered an amendment to reduce the bill’s penalty for illegal presence from a felony to a misdemeanor. Unfortunately, this amendment was unsuccessful, primarily because all but eight of our Democratic colleagues decided to play political games by voting to make all illegal immigrants felons. A felony penalty is neither appropriate nor workable. We remain committed to reducing this penalty and working with you to this end.

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gilliam said:
[Ramesh Ponnuru]

Republican congressmen Jim Sensenbrenner, Henry Hyde, and Pete King have sent an open letter to the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops. An excerpt:

Since the House bill’s passage, many have misconstrued the House’s good-faith effort to bring human traffickers to justice as a way to criminalize humanitarian assistance efforts. The House bill does no such thing, nor did it intend to.

We can assure you, just as under current law, religious organizations would not have to “card” people at soup kitchens and homeless shelters under the House bill’s anti-smuggling provisions. Prosecutors would no sooner prosecute good Samaritans for “assisting” illegal immigrants to remain in the U.S. under the House bill than they would prosecute such persons for “encouraging” illegal immigrants to remain in the U.S. under current law, which has existed for nearly 20 years.

Nonetheless, we stand willing to work with you and other persons of good will to ensure humanitarian assistance efforts are not mistakenly ensnared in this moral effort to end suffering at the hands of human traffickers. We remain optimistic this goal can be achieved.

Lastly, we know many of you are concerned about the House bill’s provision making illegal presence a felony. We share that concern. As you should know, during the House debate, Chairman Sensenbrenner offered an amendment to reduce the bill’s penalty for illegal presence from a felony to a misdemeanor. Unfortunately, this amendment was unsuccessful, primarily because all but eight of our Democratic colleagues decided to play political games by voting to make all illegal immigrants felons. A felony penalty is neither appropriate nor workable. We remain committed to reducing this penalty and working with you to this end.

Posted at 01:45 PM

In my opinion, this is damage control. Especailly that last paragraph about “democratic politicial games.”
 
:confused: You think the Democrats were genuinely voting for presence to be a felony? I didn’t think Democrats supported that.
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LCMS_No_More:
In my opinion, this is damage control. Especailly that last paragraph about “democratic politicial games.”
 
rlg94086 said:
:confused: You think the Democrats were genuinely voting for presence to be a felony? I didn’t think Democrats supported that.

Some may. Who are the Democrats in question? Not all Democrats are “liberal.”

It is not true that all Democrats want to give “amnesty” to “illegals.” In fact, no one wants to and no one has proposed this (but Republicans will still misrepresent the facts and say that anything less than the forceful and permanent removal of all undocumented immigrants is amnesty).
 
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Some may. Who are the Democrats in question? Not all Democrats are “liberal.”

It is not true that all Democrats want to give “amnesty” to “illegals.” In fact, no one wants to and no one has proposed this (but Republicans will still misrepresent the facts and say that anything less than the forceful and permanent removal of all undocumented immigrants is amnesty).
The post said “all but eight…” That’s a lot of Democrats! 🙂

BTW…there are a lot of Republicans who support the proposals which add a legal process and are against removal of all undocumented immigrants. I think one of the polls showed nearly a majority of Republicans do (I think just below 50% on the former and below 50% on the latter.)
 
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rlg94086:
The post said “all but eight…” That’s a lot of Democrats! 🙂

BTW…there are a lot of Republicans who support the proposals which add a legal process and are against removal of all undocumented immigrants. I think one of the polls showed nearly a majority of Republicans do (I think just below 50% on the former and below 50% on the latter.)
Good to know that there are at least, a few, reasonable Republicans. 😉 I wish they were the ones who were in charge. 😦
 
Bush is one of them…isn’t he in charge? Specter is one of them…he’s a major player. Hastert…the Speaker should count for somethin’. Need more?
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Good to know that there are at least, a few, reasonable Republicans. 😉 I wish they were the ones who were in charge. 😦
 
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rlg94086:
Bush is one of them…isn’t he in charge? Specter is one of them…he’s a major player. Hastert…the Speaker should count for somethin’. Need more?
Well, on this issue, Bush actually makes some sense (I question his motives, though…I think it’s to help his corporatist friends, but that’s my opinion) and I have gained a lot of respect for Specter and a few other Republican Senators (well, for a brief time until they opened their mouths on other things 😉 ) during this debate. I’ve also gained a great deal of contempt for more Republican Senators and Congressmembers because of their rhetoric in the debate. 😦
 
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LCMS_No_More:
Well, on this issue, Bush actually makes some sense (I question his motives, though…I think it’s to help his corporatist friends, but that’s my opinion)
Now I know you listen to too much Randi Rhodes. Bush has been consistent on this from before he was elected in 2000, despite pressure from the Right of his party.
 
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