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[kimbaichan]

Our Lord voluntarily submitted himself to the baptism of St. John, intended for sinners, in order to “fulfill all righteousness.” (Mt 3:15) Jesus’ gesture is a manifestation of his self-emptying. (Phili 2:7) The Spirit who had hovered over the waters of the first creation descended then on the Christ as a prelude of the new creation, and the Father revealed Jesus as his “beloved Son.” (Mt 3:16-17)

Can anyone help me with this? I bolded the words that are confusing me. Regarding “self-emptying” Protestant Bibles tend to translate this as becoming nothing and Catholic Bibles as becoming void but it’s not clear to me what exactly is going on. I’m completely befuzzled by “prelude of the new creation.”

Thanks a bunch, KChan

 

[Joe_5859]

Our Lord voluntarily submitted himself to the baptism of St. John, intended for sinners, in order to “fulfill all righteousness.” (Mt 3:15) Jesus’ gesture is a manifestation of his self-emptying. (Phili 2:7) The Spirit who had hovered over the waters of the first creation descended then on the Christ as a prelude of the new creation, and the Father revealed Jesus as his “beloved Son.” (Mt 3:16-17)

Can anyone help me with this? I bolded the words that are confusing me. Regarding “self-emptying” Protestant Bibles tend to translate this as becoming nothing and Catholic Bibles as becoming void but it’s not clear to me what exactly is going on. I’m completely befuzzled by “prelude of the new creation.”

Thanks a bunch, KChan

Self-emptying means that Christ emptied himself. Basically, Christ sacrificed his very life to save us poor sinners.

The new creation is our new life in Christ, made possible because of his self-emptying. The CCC is tying together the first creation (Genesis) with each individual Christian’s new creation (Baptism).

Does that help, or did I make things more confusing?

 

[John7]

self-emptying. (Phili 2:7)
Can anyone help me with this? I bolded the words that are confusing me.
Thanks a bunch, KChan

I can’t answer you’re question but I can give you some info. to get a better perspective and feel for the word kenow/empty/void.

here are the other places in NT where the lemma ‘kenow’ is used.
Romans 4:14 For if they that are of the law are heirs, faith is made void, and the promise is made of none effect (ASV)

1 Corinthians 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not in wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ **should be made void **(ASV)

1 Corinthians 9:15 But I have used none of these things. And I am not writing these things so that it will be done so in my case; for it would be better for me to die than have any man make my boast **an empty one **(NASB)

2 Corinthians 9:3 But I have sent the brethren, in order that our boasting about you may not **be made empty **in this case, so that, as I was saying, you may be prepared (NASB)

Philippians 2:7 but emptied himself, taking the form of a servant, being made in the likeness of men (ASV)

here’s some dictionaries
Friberg
15913 κενοω/kenow make empty;
(1) literally remove the content of something;
(2) figuratively;
(a) as taking away the effectiveness of something deprive of power (1C 1.17);
(b) as taking away the significance of something destroy, make invalid, empty (1C 9.15);
(c) as taking away the prerogatives of status or position empty, divest; εαυτον εκενωσεν literally he emptied himself, i.e. he took an unimportant position (PH 2.7)

UBS
3466 κενοω/ kenow deprive of power, make of no meaning or effect; give up or lay aside what one possesses

THAYER
2918 κενοω/kenow

1. to empty, make empty: εαυτον εκενωσεν, namely Phil. 2:7
2. to make void i. e. deprive of force, render vain, useless, of no effect: passive, Rom. 4:14; 1 Cor. 1:17.
3. to make void i. e. cause a thing to be seen to be empty, hollow, false: 1 Cor. 9:15; passive 2 Cor. 9:3. (Twice in the Septuagint viz. Jer. 14:2; 15:9; often in Attic writings.)*

hope this helps J7

 

[kimbaichan]

I think I’ve kinda got it. What confuses me about the Self-emptying is it’s mention in the CCC in the context of baptism. If he was emptied then was he filled at baptism? What was he emptied of and filled with? Or is this only refering to Jesus becoming fully human rather than a fully devine being in the form of a human?

So the ‘new creation’ is the Church? Or is it more proper to say every individual in the Church is ‘a’ new creation?

 

[DebChris]

I think I’ve kinda got it. What confuses me about the Self-emptying is it’s mention in the CCC in the context of baptism. If he was emptied then was he filled at baptism? What was he emptied of and filled with? Or is this only refering to Jesus becoming fully human rather than a fully devine being in the form of a human?

So the ‘new creation’ is the Church? Or is it more proper to say every individual in the Church is ‘a’ new creation?

Jesus is the Messiah. Messiah means the anointed one. At His Baptism, Jesus was anointed by the Holy Spirit. It is only after this anointing that Jesus began His public ministry. I do not know whether or not this answers your question.
John’s Baptism was a Baptism of Repentance. yet we know that Jesus never sinned and had no need of repentance. Nevertheless, His receiving Baptism from John was an act of humility and obedience to the Father. He was anointed and filled with the Holy Spirit.
“This is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased.”

One of my favorite crosses is the Trinity Crucifix, symbolizing the oneness of God and the unity of the Trinity even at the moment of Christ’s sacrifice.

 

[Eucharisted]

Jesus emptied Himself in two ways:

One, of the glory due to God by taking on the form of slave. I.e., He took on human flesh and He lived a poor life, led others by service, and acted as a slave to His Apostles at the Last Supper (this is shown in the washing of the feet, an act performed by slaves in that time).

Two, of His Mercy for sinners. I.e., He shed His Blood for mankind and afterwords His Sacred Heart was pierced by a lance, whereby It was emptied of Its Blood and Water, which is the Font of Mercy. His Heart was torn for sinners in a literal way where our hearts are torn for miserable people in a figurative way, and it was from the bottom of His Heart that He gave us Mercy in a literal sense where it is from the bottoms of our hearts that we give mercy to others in a figurative sense. By pouring out His Blood and Water, He gave every grace to mankind. Hence, by His Death, the King of Mercy redeemed us and won for us every grace.

Because God is Glory Itself and Mercy Itself, the Scriptures say He emptied Himself, rather than “He emptied His Glory” or “He emptied His Mercy”.

 

[kimbaichan]

One, of the glory due to God by taking on the form of slave.
Two, of His Mercy for sinners. I.e., He shed His Blood for mankind and afterwords His Sacred Heart was pierced by a lance, whereby It was emptied of Its Blood and Water, which is the Font of Mercy.
Because God is Glory Itself and Mercy Itself, the Scriptures say He emptied Himself, rather than “He emptied His Glory” or “He emptied His Mercy”.

"I see,"said the blind man. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Also, I just read paragraph 1265 about becoming a new creature, so I think I’m good to go on what is meant by a new creation. God bless you, helpful Catholics Kaycee