Celiac and Traditional Latin Mass

[Xanthippe_Voorhees]

pensmama87:

I suspect many of these people simply died young, or were those of “delicate constitutions.”

At least we can surmise that whatever causes people to be ultra sensitive to gluten- or incense- or sulfur dioxide, tobacco smoke and car exhaust- isn’t a hereditary condition. If it was carried in the genes, the trait would have died off centuries ago.

We have plenty of genetic diseases that are passed down and still a thing today. Many of the things you mention vary from extremely painful to deadly in a person. For instance, many Asians cannot tolerate dairy. They’ve actually found out that “white” people “evolved” to be able to handle animal bi-products. Dairy won’t kill most Asians but it will make them anything from gassy to extremely sick.

We know these propensities are carried in the genes. For $200 you can send off to companies like 23andme and know exactly what sensitivities your genes dispose you to.

There were most certainly people who couldn’t tolerate a food or smoke. Life expectancy was something like 35 no matter where you lived in the world. It’s 70-85 now in most developed countries.

 

[Phemie]

There were most certainly people who couldn’t tolerate a food or smoke. Life expectancy was something like 35 no matter where you lived in the world. It’s 70-85 now in most developed countries.

I grew up in a home with a mom who smoked like a tilt and so did most of our relatives and friends. By the time I was in my mid-twenties, and a non-smoker, 98% of my friends smoked and I spent much time in smoke-filled rooms. I had no problems with it.

By my thirties, only about 50% of my friends smoked and it was becoming less socially acceptable. By my forties few of my friends smoked an no one smoked indoors.

Now in my sixties, I have absolutely no tolerance for cigarette smoke, and I find it tough to walk through the smokers who stand outside various establishments enjoying their habit. I still have no problem with incense.

 

[Xanthippe_Voorhees]

Xanthippe_Voorhees:

There were most certainly people who couldn’t tolerate a food or smoke. Life expectancy was something like 35 no matter where you lived in the world. It’s 70-85 now in most developed countries.

I grew up in a home with a mom who smoked like a tilt and so did most of our relatives and friends and by the time I was in my mid-twenties and a non-smoker, 98% of my friends smoked and I spent much time in smoke-filled rooms. I had no problems with it.

By my thirties, only about 50% of my friends smoked and it was becoming less socially acceptable. By my forties few of my friends smoked an no one smoked indoors.

Now in my sixties, I have absolutely no tolerance for cigarette smoke, and I find it tough to walk through the smokers who stand outside various establishments enjoying their habit. I still have no problem with incense.

I can tolerate cigarette smoke and wood smoke but can’t do incense. It actually might have to do with a far more “rare” allergy that makes up some of the oils in “finer” blends of incense. In fact, I do much better with the dirt cheap stuff than the “hypoallergenic”.

But you prove a point about built up intolerance. Many people who have allergies developed them over time. The spice I’m allergic to I could actually eat as a child and just get a minor rash around my mouth. Now my mouth swells. If my life expectancy was only 35 it’d be doubtful that I ever really have been considered an allergy sufferer.

 

[Mi_Rose]

The people who can’t tolerate incense might have died of an asthma attack from it 50 years ago when there were no inhalers and the only treatment for an asthma attack was a shot of adrenaline which did not always work. There was also theophylline. It was the only maintainance drug.
Mom of a 47 year old who has had asthma since he was one here. There were some close calls.
So let us rejoice that modern medicine has brought us to a point where people with severe asthma can get to church instead of dying as children. And yes they might complain but so might anyone whose lungs are trying to kill them

 

[Xanthippe_Voorhees]

The people who can’t tolerate incense might have died of an asthma attack from it 50 years ago when there were no inhalers and the only treatment for an asthma attack was a shot of adrenaline which did not always work. There was also theophylline. It was the only maintainance drug.
Mom of a 47 year old who has had asthma since he was one here. There were some close calls.
So let us rejoice that modern medicine has brought us to a point where people with severe asthma can get to church instead of dying as children. And yes they might complain but so might anyone whose lungs are trying to kill them

Your post also reminds me that people of yesteryear were not without medicine. I’m not sure what was available in Europe, but in America, natives used plants in ways that were very curative. There were teas that were MUCH stronger (and safer) painkillers than aspirin/Tylenol. Asthma was a well-known affliction and there were effective treatments…although without the modern ways of dosage control overall outcomes were poor.

 

[Mi_Rose]

Theophylline that I mentioned is iin tea and a pot of tea was our first line of defense.

 

[EqualinHim]

Actually, the concept that ‘life expectancy was 35’ is a myth. Certain things factored in like illness and accident, of course, but the life expectancy was actually quite high if you survived childhood diseases.

 

[Xanthippe_Voorhees]

Actually, the concept that ‘life expectancy was 35’ is a myth. Certain things factored in like illness and accident, of course, but the life expectancy was actually quite high if you survived childhood diseases.

It’s not a myth just because people don’t understand what it means. Overall life expectancy factors in all ages. When 50% of the population dies before 5, then you lose 1/4 of women in childbirth, but the rest live to 60-70 it means the overall life expectancy is very low. You’re speaking of longevity, not life expectancy.

Without modern medicine, I likely would have been one of the 50% that died before age 5. There’s little chance I would have made it through pregnancy, had I survived past 5.

The notion that people were somehow “hardier” and could tolearate things better is a complete fallacy.