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Does the Charismatic Movement help or hurt the Church? From what little I’ve heard of it seems like it’s just Catholicism mixed with Pentecostalism.
Like any movement, if it stays obedient to the teachings of the Church and promotes the fruit of the Spirit, especially love and humility, then its good. If it becomes a source of pride, elitism, and disobedience it is bad. I’m not so sure one could make a judgment about the charismatic movement as if it were a monolithic movement. It would be better to talk about charismatic movements.Does the Charismatic Movement help or hurt the Church? From what little I’ve heard of it seems like it’s just Catholicism mixed with Pentecostalism.
Does the Charismatic Movement help or hurt the Church? From what little I’ve heard of it seems like it’s just Catholicism mixed with Pentecostalism.
I used to be in to that Charismatic stuff myself, but I saw alot of bad fruit from it: People whose faith was based on emotional experiences and not the truth of Christ. People who, when hardship came and the good feelings went away, did not stick with Christ. Furthermore, there is no history of such spirituality in all of Church history. Not one saint speaks of it. Even the passages referenced from scripture by Charismatics are taken out of context and misused. The Charismatic movement started in the protestant religion and that scares me because…their religion is heresy. I am not saying this to be mean but out of genuine concern. By the way, baptism in the Holy Spirit occurs at baptism and at confirmation. If we receive the fullness of the gifts of the Holy Spirit in Confirmation, then there is no need for any extra so called “Baptism in the Holy Spirit”.
That’s good, if that is what you are looking for. You don’t imagine or think anything particularly contrary to the parish I mentioned, I hope, or the pastor there. He’s not the only parish priest who belongs to the movement, but only a handful would know my retired pastor.Here is a quote from another thread that I totally agree with.
Bad fruit can’t be defended in brief posts when generalizations are the rule. I didn’t see bad fruit. I saw a flourishing Legion of Mary, an increasing Third Order of Mary aka Marists, people who attended adoration open every day until finally there was perpetual adoration at our inner city parish, thriving Hispanic community due to charismatic deacon who attended to them, monthly confession preached regularly. Such gives a small demonstration of the fruits I saw.Originally Posted by Topher
I used to be in to that Charismatic stuff myself, but I saw alot of bad fruit from it: People whose faith was based on emotional experiences and not the truth of Christ. People who, when hardship came and the good feelings went away, did not stick with Christ. Furthermore, there is no history of such spirituality in all of Church history. Not one saint speaks of it. Even the passages referenced from scripture by Charismatics are taken out of context and misused. The Charismatic movement started in the protestant religion and that scares me because…their religion is heresy. I am not saying this to be mean but out of genuine concern. By the way, baptism in the Holy Spirit occurs at baptism and at confirmation. If we receive the fullness of the gifts of the Holy Spirit in Confirmation, then there is no need for any extra so called “Baptism in the Holy Spirit”.
Not for me either. Sure Steve Ray is a good apologist, but his membership at Christ The King should not be construed as approval or support of the movement. As I see it, the movement is still strong in that parish but not quite as widespread as it was when the parish was founded.I believe if it brings people closer to Christ…then by all means let people be a part of it and grow in their spirituality…with that said, it is not for me…I don’t care who approves it or looks favorably upon it…You can find the same thing going on at your local Evangelical Church.