Christian Persecution in the USA

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This is a spin-off from another thread-lest I be accused of going off topic I’m starting a new thread.

Can anyone provide me with some evidence of religious persecution of Christians in the USA? I hear and read all the time about how Christianity is under attack, yet I’ve been living for quite a long time as a Christian without any problems at all. I go to Mass with no problems, talk about my faith, wear religious jewelery, I don’t have to work on my major faith holidays…shoot, even the people I have the choice of voting for are always Christian.

So, tell me-am I really out of touch with the reality that other Christians are living with??
 
This is a spin-off from another thread-lest I be accused of going off topic I’m starting a new thread.

Can anyone provide me with some evidence of religious persecution of Christians in the USA? I hear and read all the time about how Christianity is under attack, yet I’ve been living for quite a long time as a Christian without any problems at all. I go to Mass with no problems, talk about my faith, wear religious jewelery, I don’t have to work on my major faith holidays…shoot, even the people I have the choice of voting for are always Christian.

So, tell me-am I really out of touch with the reality that other Christians are living with??
Not out of touch. I think people interperate themselves as “persecuted” if the world isn’t how they want it to be.

Yes, there are many things in the US which don’t gel at all with the Catholic view of the world. But persecution it is not.
 
Yeah…it’s funny because I’m pro-life, Catholic and somewhat traditional, while many people at my university are liberal and non-Catholics. Some of my friends have had bad experience with rude professors (but I’m told that happens on a lot of campuses). I haven’t had any issues. In fact, people think it’s cool that I’m Catholic and are always asking me questions about it. Lol, I got to go to the Papal Mass and they wanted me to say hi to the Pope for them! hahaha.

I know there are people who don’t like Christianity. Certainly, I’ve encountered my fair share of people who were outright mean. But seriously, I’m not persecuted! I’m not seeing any “Catholic only” restaurants, “No Catholics allowed” signs, etc. I’m not fearing for my life because I’m a Christian. I haven’t lost a job because of it. Seriously.
 
Ok, so where are all these folks that think we’re so persecuted??🤷
 
Ok, so where are all these folks that think we’re so persecuted??🤷
I usually hear it more around Christmas when people complain that they can’t have a “Christmas” Party, but rather a “Holiday” or “Winter” Party.
 
There are different levels of persecution, and different ways to be Christian. In my old denomination being persecuted by individuals, not by the government or anything, was a step in development. Someone who hadn’t been mistreated, condemned or denied service somewhere for talking about his or her faith was considered a wet-behind-the-ears youth with a little growing to do yet. It is very liberal here. You can get thrown out of a college class now and then just refusing to take part in a discussion or refusing to let someone restate and wildly misinterpret what you said. There are certain things everyone is expected to say as matters of etiquette that are actually specific religious ideas, such as “what’s right for you may not be right for me,” and other expressions of moral and epistemological relativism, and you have to be very careful mentioning holidays by name in public schools or governmental meetings, even in passing. People sneer at people wearing religious jewelry and talk down to you. I’ve been screamed at by strangers and old acquaintances simply because I’m a Christian. I hadn’t done anything, I was just walking down the street.
I’ve been an atheist, pagan, Buddhist, New Ager, occultist, and then as a Christian I’ve been an Evangelical Friend (Quaker), Nondenominational, Trintiarian Neo-Pentecostal and now I’m happily Catholic. Every one of those periods, I had enemies, and friends too. As an atheist, I was never harassed or disdained or excluded because of my beliefs; it was an elite claim. The same as a Buddhist. As a New Ager, I got some flak, but rarely, and in my time as a pagan and an occultist, I knew who liked me and who didn’t, but most people treated me as someone who knew things they might want to know, though they thought I also might be dangerous. When I became a Christian, I discovered that there really is an anti-Christian undercurrent in mainstream society around here. Sure, if you live where 90% of the people go to church and 45% got oyour church, it probably won’t touch you. Maybe even most of your professors believed your exact theology. But if you live where about 50% have a religious identification with any group or church at all, and perhaps 10% are pagan, New Age, Buddhist etc. and they are the culturally upscale beliefs, and perhaps 25% see themselves as “Christian but with their own version of what that means” and don’t believe in going to church or organized religion at all, and add and subtract things as basic as commandments, like saying they believe in adultery or whatever… Well, going to church is considered anything from a silly old-fashioned custom we’re expected to get over when we realize no one does that now, like the Charleston, to a dangerous custom that could mean we’re in there planning to hurt the atheists or New Agers.
With that said, some of my pagan and other non-Christian friends are actually delighted that I’m Catholic now and some thought it was sweet when I was a Quaker. Some are not, though. I get many reactions. I get yelled at out of the blue. I try to be thick-skinned.
 
This is from the last Pope:
Although martyrdom represents the high point of the witness to moral truth, and one to which relatively few people are called, there is nonetheless a consistent witness which all Christians must daily be ready to make, even at the cost of suffering and grave sacrifice. Indeed, faced with the many difficulties which fidelity to the moral order can demand, even in the most ordinary circumstances, the Christian is called, with the grace of God invoked in prayer, to a sometimes heroic commitment. In this he or she is sustained by the virtue of fortitude, whereby — as Gregory the Great teaches — one can actually “love the difficulties of this world for the sake of eternal rewards”.146
I guess we each can live our faith more deeply. If we are not being “persecuted” then we should re-examine how we are living?
 
I live in the NE, about 45 minutes outside of NYC-hardly church-going territory. I did go to Catholic schools, so I was fairly insulated there, but I’ve never had anyone say anything negative at work, or socially. I don’t censor myself about my faith, but I’m not really an “in your face” evangelizer type either.

I have a few atheist/agnostic friends and more than a few non-Catholic friends and while I’ve gotten the occasional comment asking me “how can you stay in a Church that thinks you’re disordered?” most of the time they leave me alone about it.
 
I live in the NE, about 45 minutes outside of NYC-hardly church-going territory. I did go to Catholic schools, so I was fairly insulated there, but I’ve never had anyone say anything negative at work, or socially. I don’t censor myself about my faith, but I’m not really an “in your face” evangelizer type either.

I have a few atheist/agnostic friends and more than a few non-Catholic friends and while I’ve gotten the occasional comment asking me “how can you stay in a Church that thinks you’re disordered?” most of the time they leave me alone about it.
You know, the longer I stay on this forum the more attractive the rest of the USA sounds to me.
 
Any American using the word persecuted needs a reality check. Perhaps a visit with christians in a muslim country would suffice.

That said, I think what people mean when they mistakenly refer to persecution is that they are dismayed to see how quickly our culture is becoming unmoored from and even hostile to the christian principles that formed this culture in the first place. Unpopularity is not, however, persecution.

And there are growing signs of the approach of forms of disguised discrimination. In my state, for example, the Governor has issued a decree that any pharmacist who refuses to dispense contraceptives is subject to losing his license to practice. This in spite of pleas from catholic pharmacists who note that they cannot in good conscience do so. In effect, obedient catholics are barred from practicing pharmacy in Illinois.
 
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