JoeFreedom
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According to the USCCB (see link here):
Catholic Social Teaching
The Catholic Catechism instructs the faithful that good government has two duties, both of which must be carried out and neither of which can be ignored. The first duty is to welcome the foreigner out of charity and respect for the human person. Persons have the right to immigrate and thus government must accommodate this right to the greatest extent possible, especially financially blessed nations: “The more prosperous nations are obliged, to the extent they are able, to welcome the foreigner in search of the security and the means of livelihood which he cannot find in his country of origin. Public authorities should see to it that the natural right is respected that places a guest under the protection of those who receive him.” Catholic Catechism, 2241.
The second duty is to secure one’s border and enforce the law for the sake of the common good. Sovereign nations have the right to enforce their laws and all persons must respect the legitimate exercise of this right: “Political authorities, for the sake of the common good for which they are responsible may make the exercise of the right to immigrate subject to various juridical conditions, especially with regard to the immigrants’ duties toward their country of adoption. Immigrants are obliged to respect with gratitude the material and spiritual heritage of the country that receives them, to obey its laws and to assist in carrying civic burdens.” Catholic Catechism, 2241.
In January 2003, the U.S. Catholic Bishops released a pastoral letter on migration entitled, “Strangers No Longer: Together on the Journey of Hope.” In their letter, the Bishops stressed that, “[w]hen persons cannot find employment in their country of origin to support themselves and their families, they have a right to find work elsewhere in order to survive. Sovereign nations should provide ways to accommodate this right.” No. 35. The Bishops made clear that the “[m]ore powerful economic nations…ave a stronger obligation to accommodate migration flows.” No. 36.
If in paragraph one, it instructs us to welcome those who illegally cross our borders, and in paragraph two, it tells us to secure our borders, and for those who are not citizens to respect our laws, is this not contradictory?
I have no problem with immigration or foreigners. I think a lot of people who believe in secure borders are automatically called racists, bigots, etc., of which I can honestly and firmly tell you that I am not. What I believe in is the enforcement of our current laws and respect for our laws. I believe that immigration, as it currently stands should be done legally and within the established processes/laws. However, in an ideal world where our government does not provide everything to everyone cradle to grave by robbing from the haves and giving the poor (this is NOT the job of the government but a commandment of God to love our neighbor, be his brother’s keeper, and for him to exercise the free will to provide charity, NOT forced charity through government coercion). If our government did not do this, and people were allowed the freedom to be free of government slavery, and people were NOT given handouts all through life, I would agree that unfettered immigration we be more acceptable, because those people then are not coming here for FREE stuff, but rather to find a way to pick themselves up by their bootstraps and to work and provide for themselves, like the first immigrants had to do (no government freebies).
So how do these two Catholic teachings reconcile with each other? I mean, in the same respect, if someone were to steal (break our laws), even if the sake they were hungry and had no money, would the CC say to love them and let them be, just like what I am reading into their teaching above?
Catholic Social Teaching
The Catholic Catechism instructs the faithful that good government has two duties, both of which must be carried out and neither of which can be ignored. The first duty is to welcome the foreigner out of charity and respect for the human person. Persons have the right to immigrate and thus government must accommodate this right to the greatest extent possible, especially financially blessed nations: “The more prosperous nations are obliged, to the extent they are able, to welcome the foreigner in search of the security and the means of livelihood which he cannot find in his country of origin. Public authorities should see to it that the natural right is respected that places a guest under the protection of those who receive him.” Catholic Catechism, 2241.
The second duty is to secure one’s border and enforce the law for the sake of the common good. Sovereign nations have the right to enforce their laws and all persons must respect the legitimate exercise of this right: “Political authorities, for the sake of the common good for which they are responsible may make the exercise of the right to immigrate subject to various juridical conditions, especially with regard to the immigrants’ duties toward their country of adoption. Immigrants are obliged to respect with gratitude the material and spiritual heritage of the country that receives them, to obey its laws and to assist in carrying civic burdens.” Catholic Catechism, 2241.
In January 2003, the U.S. Catholic Bishops released a pastoral letter on migration entitled, “Strangers No Longer: Together on the Journey of Hope.” In their letter, the Bishops stressed that, “[w]hen persons cannot find employment in their country of origin to support themselves and their families, they have a right to find work elsewhere in order to survive. Sovereign nations should provide ways to accommodate this right.” No. 35. The Bishops made clear that the “[m]ore powerful economic nations…ave a stronger obligation to accommodate migration flows.” No. 36.
If in paragraph one, it instructs us to welcome those who illegally cross our borders, and in paragraph two, it tells us to secure our borders, and for those who are not citizens to respect our laws, is this not contradictory?
I have no problem with immigration or foreigners. I think a lot of people who believe in secure borders are automatically called racists, bigots, etc., of which I can honestly and firmly tell you that I am not. What I believe in is the enforcement of our current laws and respect for our laws. I believe that immigration, as it currently stands should be done legally and within the established processes/laws. However, in an ideal world where our government does not provide everything to everyone cradle to grave by robbing from the haves and giving the poor (this is NOT the job of the government but a commandment of God to love our neighbor, be his brother’s keeper, and for him to exercise the free will to provide charity, NOT forced charity through government coercion). If our government did not do this, and people were allowed the freedom to be free of government slavery, and people were NOT given handouts all through life, I would agree that unfettered immigration we be more acceptable, because those people then are not coming here for FREE stuff, but rather to find a way to pick themselves up by their bootstraps and to work and provide for themselves, like the first immigrants had to do (no government freebies).
So how do these two Catholic teachings reconcile with each other? I mean, in the same respect, if someone were to steal (break our laws), even if the sake they were hungry and had no money, would the CC say to love them and let them be, just like what I am reading into their teaching above?