Communion / the last supper

[Zundrah]

Monica4316;5512713]thank you

You iz welcome!

I don’t mean to change the topic of the thread lol, but I just always wondered, in denominations like the Methodist church, do you keep on asking for forgiveness for the sins you do after you’ve accepted Christ?

Well we don’t have confession or anything like that. Let me give a you a brief explaination of the most well known denominations.

The common denominations are these;

Baptist - a Christian denomination that baptizes believers by immersion and that is usually Calvinistic in doctrine. They refuse to baptise children, and usually wait until they are 16 or 17 years old. Also note that there are more than one kind of baptist denominations, although there are lots of protestant denominations there are also different type of the the same denomination (there might be several diffrerent baptist churches with slightly different doctrine)! Some of the worse baptist churches might really believe that if you are not baptized you may go to heel even if you were a devout christian. They may also believe that if you were baptized before adult years that your baptism didn’t count and you are still hell-bound!

Methodist - the largest Christian denomination that grew out of the revival of religion led by John Wesley: stresses both personal and social morality and has an Arminian doctrine and, in the U.S., a modified episcopal polity. This denomination is not the worse that a catholic could come across. The methodist church is concerned only with your personal repentance and realisation of what is sin and that you admit you sins and surrender tham at the foot of the cross… ect.

Sorry, I could go on forever but I think that this post is big enough already!
If you want to know more then please feel free to PM me, or just post here again! I wont try to convert you into a protestant or anything like that!

I know that some Protestants do this and others do not, and believe that their future sins are forgiven as well. (the Catholic Church would say that future sins were atoned for on the Cross but we still ask for forgiveness for them for the atonement to be applied to us)
just curious!

Well, unfortuantely i do remember my minister saying that our church does believe that once you have come to christ all of your future sin are forgiven too. …you can think what you like about this because I too have difficulty believing it…

St Padre Pio said, “pray, hope, and don’t worry. Worry is useless. God is merciful and will hear your prayer.” try to trust Him, ask Him that you may become Catholic one day, on Easter, and leave the rest up to God. He knows all your concerns, and He holds the future in His hand.

:hug1:

Lol - thank you, I will worry no more about this Monica!

xxx zundrah xxx

 

[paperwight]

Two things I’d like you to think again about, Jennifer.

You are still talking as if you are still Methodist (and you still describe yourself as Methodist Protestant on your profile). I thought you were sincere in wanting to be a Catholic? If so, you are now ‘in RCIA’ , or a ‘Catholic Catechumen’ if you prefer - you are not a Methodist (although of course, it’s a very good thing to acknowledge the good thigs in your previous denomination, as all good things come from God).

And Catholics are allowed to be cremated, you know. My own daughter was cremated when she died a few months younger than you are now. And we have both let it be known among our family that we, too, want to be cremated, as so much land is wasted which should be used for houses or producing food, or parks.

For a short time in the Church’s history, cremation was banned for Catholics, because during the 19th Century (I think) people were using cremation as a way of saying that the church was wrong about the soul being immortal. But then that died down, and cremation was allowed again.

There is nothing inherently proper and decent or Catholic about being buried in the ground. Look up ‘ossuaries’ sometime.

 

[Zundrah]

Two things I’d like you to think again about, Jennifer.

You are still talking as if you are still Methodist (and you still describe yourself as Methodist Protestant on your profile). I thought you were sincere in wanting to be a Catholic? If so, you are now ‘in RCIA’ , or a ‘Catholic Catechumen’ if you prefer - you are not a Methodist (although of course, it’s a very good thing to acknowledge the good thigs in your previous denomination, as all good things come from God).

And Catholics are allowed to be cremated, you know. My own daughter was cremated when she died a few months younger than you are now. And we have both let it be known among our family that we, too, want to be cremated, as so much land is wasted which should be used for houses or producing food, or parks.

For a short time in the Church’s history, cremation was banned for Catholics, because during the 19th Century (I think) people were using cremation as a way of saying that the church was wrong about the soul being immortal. But then that died down, and cremation was allowed again.

There is nothing inherently proper and decent or Catholic about being buried in the ground. Look up ‘ossuaries’ sometime.

…I just really miss my family (friends) in my methodist church but I don’t want to go back there or anything like that… I left for a good reason, it was just by divine intervention that I found my Roman Catholic Church that I am in today. I am lucky to have left my methodist church other wise I wouldn’t have joined the one I am in now!

I came onto this site (CAF) because I was out of church for six weeks and I was desperate to talk to christians.

 

[Zundrah]

My dear friend Jennifer

God won’t let you die before you become catholic so don’t worry. It just won’t happen. With the forgiveness of sins it’s a big subject. There are many biblical references to how we get sins forgiven. I’ll try to give you a brief outline and a link for a thorough explaination though.

There is mortal sin which kills the soul, and venial sin which wounds us but does not kill our soul. We can confess enial sins if we want and should because it’ll help us fight against them and little sins lead to big ones. If we commit mortal sins we must confess them often and certainly before we receive the holy of holies which is the eucharist. We can be forgiven our mortal sins by repenting and making an act of perfect contrition directly to God without confession. But it must be perfect and to ensure there are no abuses and consequently sacrileges and so we can be sure we are forgiven the church insist we confess and repent of mortal sins to a priest in confession. This must be done at least once a year and certainly before holy communion. Where there are no priests bar every 6 mths etc the church tells the faithful to make the act of perfect contrition prior to communion so they can still go. So the church knows we don’t need onfession always. But there are other reasons we confess to a priest. It is the way Jesus wants us to do it firstly, when he gave the power to forgive sins to the apostles and their successors the bishops and priests ( confession has been in the church since the apostles and always will). We become much more humble when we have to tell someone our sins and humility is needed in the fight against sin. It’s a deterent agaist sin if we have to front up at confession for many too. We should hoose one priest for confession and as he gets to know us he can give spiritual advice to help us overcome our sins we struggle with and help us in our spiritual life. People go to counselling all the time, this is not so necessary if we unburden ourselves in confession often- it’s very therapeutic. God knows we need to hear words of forgiveness when we unburden ourselves of our sins and we get this in confession ( we perceive all through our senses and God makes sure we use our senses always so we have tangible signs of what is invisible such as the forgiveness of sins in confession ). We must remember that the priest has the power to forgive or retain our sins but God is the one we are really confessing to and He forgives us and we can’t fool God. So beware God is in the confessional. We can go to confession often, even weekly, if we don’t have sins ecause it’s a sacrament and an intimate contact with God where we recive much grace and not just forgiveness. We can go to confession as often as we want and it’s free. I hope this helps dear Jennifer. Please read the link for a more biblical explaination of confession. I;m sure you’ll like it dear friend.

Go to- catholic.com/library/Confession.asp

Confession of mortal sins is vital because as the following scripture quote shows us receving the eucharist unworthily resulted in a punishment of deat by the Lord in the early church to let all know the importance of receiving the sacrament in a state of grace and worthily -

1Cor.11

23] For I received from the Lord what I also delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus on the night when he was betrayed took bread,
24] and when he had given thanks, he broke it, and said, “This is my body which is for you. Do this in remembrance of me.”
25] In the same way also the cup, after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood. Do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me.”
26] For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes.
27] Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of profaning the body and blood of the Lord.
28] Let a man examine himself, and so eat of the bread and drink of the cup.
29] For any one who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment upon himself.
[30] That is why many of you are weak and ill, and some have died.
31] But if we judged ourselves truly, we should not be judged.

For a good explaination of the eucharist check this out dear Jennifer - catholic.com/library/Christ_in_the_Eucharist.asp Check it out dear Jennifer. It’ll tell you what you want to know I think.

A great book to read for a layman to understand all one needs to believe to e catholic is the catechism. You can view and search it here if you want - scborromeo.org/ccc.htm

You can look up the defintion of catholic words in the pocket catholic dictionary too here therealpresence.org/dictionary/adict.htm

I’ll throw in my favourite bible- the RSV version. You can read and search it here if you want - quod.lib.umich.edu/r/rsv/

I hope this helps you dear Jennifer. And thanks for you email. Sorry I missed you last night. fell asleep and didn’t wake up. See you soon

May He Who Am bless you always:thumbsup:

John

Thank you John, as always you are the shining star in my darkness. Death is unimportant, life is a special gift, a very special gift, even Christ was blessed to be born, he rejoiced that he could feel his people’s pain so that he could put his healing balm on them. This is what we all should be concentrating on, not worrying baout death, but worrying about what good we do with our lives. Well, if Christ did nothinmg with his life but instead just worried about death all the time, where would we all be now?

xxx zundrah xxx