Completely lost

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I’ll try to sum this up, I appreciate you reading this:
This past month has been a whole new level of spiritual darkness and suffering (even so, Our Lady has lightened it for me) Even to the point of where I think I might be falling into scrupulosity, but at the same time, I don’t think I am.
For example, every time I eat anything (even snack!) I think about the poor, and think “I should be fasting” or today, I bought a picture of the Holy Family (with Christmas money) and when I got home I thought “you know, you should return it and give the money to someone who needs it”
And it’s like that with everything, spiritual books, images, food, people, literally, everything in my life (no im not joking, even down to my clothes) I wonder “Am I making this item a god?”
Earlier, I was just so fed up, I told God “I just get angry sometimes, it’s not fair” because I was hungry, and wanting to snack, but knew that if I did, I’d feel guilty, and was frustrated at not having a meal ready (which of course is selfish of me, like I can’t make a bowl of cereal or soup?) and maybe out of anger, just ate popcorn and reeses peanut butter cups (the latter of which came in my stocking for Christmas, and I haven’t been eating them because I decided it was better spiritually to avoid them)
And this isn’t even the extent of it.
My vocation I feel is either in extreme danger or just on the verge of…something… maybe me accepting it? I don’t know.
I am constantly *constantly *second guessing myself on everything.
Down to “Why are you talking to that girl exactly? Are you reading that to gain knowledge or because you love Our Lord? Why are you at the computer as much as you are, stop checking your email. You know your room is really too nice, your family is too rich, buncha complainers, just start living poverty already.”
It honestly doesn’t go away.
And best yet! It’s probably an attack (been goin on practically non-stop for about a month now) from the enemy, and I have no competent spiritual director that I’m aware of. I even went to Fr Peter Mary Rookey (known healer, lives half hour away, he said I was going through the dark night probably, which I tend to agree with, but i think the enemy is chiming in too, because I’m losing taste for material and sensual things yet am drawn to them for relief, but then find no relief) and my Pastor is a good confessor, but when I talk to him about this stuff, he tells me to just take it easy on myself, you’re pushing too hard, etc etc.
BUT HOW CAN I EASE UP WHEN SOULS ARE BEING LOST? It’s not FAIR! WHY, is the Lord allowing this? I’m just really frustrated, because I’m not getting it.
And when I make peace with God in confession or something, I screw it up again and am back in the hole.
Like, I feel called to really live the Gospel, but how the heck can I do that if Im supposedly supposed to get a 20,000 dollar a year education, drive around a nice car, live in a nice house, have all this temptation around in my house constantly (family isn’t the holiest on the block, and neither am i) and am feeling so repelled by the world that I wanna be a hermit, but feel horrible for the poor and feel like i should help them (though I, like St. Francis at first, am hesitant of that) feel called to preach and teach too… it’s like, nothing makes sense at all.
i have no one to help really, and I know God’s trying to tell me something and I have no clue what.
or maybe I do and am not admitting it.
i could go on, but i’ll spare you the complaining.
o, and i feel guilty about not visiting the elderly, working for the poor, working more for my evangelization job, and for not praying more and doing more penance, for not getting up immediately when the alarm goes off, etc etc etc etc.
scrupulosity? God trying to teach me…everything?
please PRAY and please help me.
any good spiritual directors around Kankakee County in Illinois? Like, Fr. Dubay, Fr. Hardon, Padre Pio grade?
Is God trying to guide me Himself? What am I supposed to do!!!

Second guessing,
Mordocai

p.s. o, and i have to deal with feeling called the charisms (healing, prophecy etc) And ever since Fr. Rookey prayed over me, things have gotten “worse” in this regard. but hey, the lady who worked with him said "when he prays over you, your life will never be the same.
AND HE EVEN LOOKED AT ME AND SAID I WAS SUPPOSED TO TAKE OVER HIS MINISTRY! AHH!!!
… so im pretty terrified lately.
very sorry for this long post, please help if you can.
 
seek spiritual direction, especially if you are discerning a vocation, it is vital for someone experiencing the inward movements you are feeling.
 
Hey, you’re only a hop skip from Chicago. There are many Opus Dei priests in Chicago. They are excellent directors.
You should go right away!!
 
The only thing I can add to this conversation is this…

I look at the lives of the saints and see how different they all are. Take, for instance, St. Francis of Asissi who wore a simple robe and walked the roads teaching and preaching. He truly lived a life of poverty physically, and spiritually.

Then there is St. Francis de Sales who was led to not choose the same spiritual road that Francis of Assisi traveled. And, yet, both men reached sanctity and drew many others to Christ.

One can live in the world and dress and eat decently, and yet not be “caught up” in the things of the world, pursuing them indiscriminately. Without any fanfare we can do without some things that are not necessary, but when offered find food at a relative’s home it would be uncharitable to refuse it. Whether we eat or drink we can do all for the glory of God.

And, yet, having said that, I believe it is true that some are called to follow a different path than others, for their sanctification, and that a certain amount of mortification of the senses is necessary. If we keep seeking, we will find what God’s will is for us as an individual.
 
Hey, you’re only a hop skip from Chicago. There are many Opus Dei priests in Chicago. They are excellent directors.
You should go right away!!
Best advice yet. You will only have peace when you are able to submit to a legitimate spiritual authority, which a spiritual director would be for you.

The virtue of poverty is prominent in the spirituality of Opus Dei, but not in a conventional, immediately apparent way. It is more a living of detachment from the things one has and uses.

Either check out the Opus Dei website at www.opusdei.org (click “contact us” and send an email asking for the address of the center nearest you) or go yourself to Our Lady of the Angels and meet one of the priests.

God bless you.

Betsy
 
Dear Lost,
One of my favorite C.S. Lewis quotes says that humility is not thinking less of yourself, instead it is not thinking of yourself at all. You seem to be caught up in self examination. Instead think about the Lord and His great Love for you and stop thinking so much about yourself. Privations for the Lords sake are a source of joy. When they become a burden it might be a good idea to get some advice. And as has been suggested, find a good spiritual director to help you.
 
Thank you everyone for the advice and prayers.
Spiritual director search is underway.
And especially JohnCaroll’s words on humility…
Thank you for that!

God Bless!
HAPPY NEW YEAR :)…tomorrow 😉
Mordocai
 
Goodness, you sound like you are struggling. Are you called to be a priest? A brother in a cloistered place? I would say finish your education first, then get counseling for vocational choice. And meanwhile a spiritual director.

What is your major?
 
Well, right now I’m at a community college.
I will know in a few weeks if I’m accepted at Franciscan Univeristy of Steubenville (Please pray that I get in!!!)
Here’s my quick story.
thought i discerned the priesthood, wanted to be diocesan.
found the legionaries.
thought i discerned that.
was in there summer candidacy. wasnt God’s Will for me.
came back, tried the diocesan thing again.
they told me to go to a 4 year university, needed more life experience.
was mad. 🙂
at a community college now, visted steubie.
LOVED IT.
I’d get a better formatin there in their pre-theologate program than any seminary i think.
perhaps that was what the vocation director intended but didnt want to openly say. he’s familiar with franciscan, so yeah. he even wanted me to go there. still does.
so, the “tug” is there, but i think God is softening my heart to whatever my vocation is.
it’ll be a surprise, that i’m sure of. order? deacon? brother? priest? married theologian/apologist? who knows.
i just want to get as close to God as i can.
human “pulls” to marriage go against the spiritual “pulls” of wanting to be holy and seeing more opportunity in that with priesthood. but ultimately, i want to embrace God’s Will.
which, as i know, is what i truly want deep inside. my vocation is what I PERSONALLY really want to do, and God is just guiding me to show me what i want (like what He did with Franciscan. i spent my entire visit there LOOKING for reasons to not go there. when the onyl reason i came up with is “its 8 hours away” i decided i was an idiot and should learn that God is GOOD and offers us GOOD things, and we can then choose to accept or not. i consider it one of those irresistable graces. now whether or not i get in is another thing, but i certainly want to go. God knows that, and if He wants me in, i will be in)
and so, the devil sees me wanting to be holy and pursue my vocation. throws lots of stumbling blocks in the way.
but God says “thats ok, because his time hasnt come anyway”
i cant explain it, i just know God will show me. so there are relationships i must heal first. the sacrifice, for the time being, has been left at the altar so that i can make amends with certain individuals.

to summarize.
currently, things have been getting easier.
i talked to my pastor, he doesnt think im scrupulous…yet! but he cautioned me about its dangers and i will be speaking to him much more in depth tomorrow (wed. the 3rd) about everything in my life.
i appreciate any prayer that was made for me.
thank you.

but yes, vocation is probably at the heart of it.
am i hiding?
i dont want to hide anymore. i want to run out from behind the tree and embrace Him.
and if i dont, He’ll yank the tree out of the ground 🙂

God is Good,
Mordocai
 
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