Concerning the Real Presence

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A good distinction to make is that while the Church teaches that Christ is fully and substantially present in the Eucharist, the Church does not teach that Christ is physically present in the Eucharist. The difference being that physical presence would also have the presence of Christ’s accidents.

Of course, since the Eucharist appears by it’s accidents to be only bread, belief requires that leap of Faith to understand that Christ is truly there in substance.
 
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the Church does not teach that Christ is physically present in the Eucharist. The difference being that physical presence would also have the presence of Christ’s accidents.
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Hi Ham,

I just wanted to address this point, because I think it is very fruitful to delve deeper into the amazing riches of the Church’s eucharistic theology.

I do not want to take any issue with your statement regarding whether or not the Church teaches Christ is physically present, but I do want to point out that there is no problem with Christ’s accidents being present.

In fact, unless Christ’s accidents are present, He would not be REALLY present. The Church has addressed this in various ways. . . St. Thomas explained that Christ’s accidents are present by reason of real “concomitance”, but in the “manner of a substance”. See this passage from the Summa.

Please also see this This Rock article on Transubstantiation which discusses the topic (about 2/3rds of the way down).
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Absolutely! But He is also there with His accidents.

Remember you receive the whole Christ, entire. His Body, His Blood, His Soul, and His Divinity. His Body has accidents!

I just wanted to give you a heads up, in hopes of sparking some more discussion on this Topic of Topics, and hopefully it leads to greater adoration of Him in His Real Presence. The ultimate goal of knowing more is to love more.

What do you think?

God Bless!
VC
 
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Hi Ham,

I just wanted to address this point, because I think it is very fruitful to delve deeper into the amazing riches of the Church’s eucharistic theology.

I do not want to take any issue with your statement regarding whether or not the Church teaches Christ is physically present, but I do want to point out that there is no problem with Christ’s accidents being present.

In fact, unless Christ’s accidents are present, He would not be REALLY present. The Church has addressed this in various ways. . . St. Thomas explained that Christ’s accidents are present by reason of real “concomitance”, but in the “manner of a substance”. See this passage from the Summa.

Please also see this This Rock article on Transubstantiation which discusses the topic (about 2/3rds of the way down).

Absolutely! But He is also there with His accidents.

Remember you receive the whole Christ, entire. His Body, His Blood, His Soul, and His Divinity. His Body has accidents!

I just wanted to give you a heads up, in hopes of sparking some more discussion on this Topic of Topics, and hopefully it leads to greater adoration of Him in His Real Presence. The ultimate goal of knowing more is to love more.

What do you think?

God Bless!
VC
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VC,

Thanks. You are correct. What I wrote was not entirely correct.
 
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