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I am a new Catholic. Catholic Bibles I see for sale lack a concordance in the back of book. When I was a Baptist and when I was an AG, I could always flip to it to find something. Now as a Catholic, I remember some phrase from some verse and can find nothing until I get out my Thompson Chain Reference or Scofield or NIV at home.

Is there a Catholic Bible with a concordance?
 
IMHO keep your Strong’s or whatever concordance handy.

I have not seen a lot of ordinary Catholics oriented to using one, either.

This raises some questions that I’d like to ask. Are you disappointed about the lack of knowledge of the Bible you see in Catholics around you?

Personally, I think there is almost an institutionalized bias against Scripture for three reasons. One, the Reformation was so Bible-oriented, Catholic leaders almost wanted to distance themselves from the Bible-only mindset. Two, the Catholic Church distances itself from fundmentalism almost too zealously today. Third, due to the influence of historical critical exegesis, a lot of “scholars” want to undermine the credibility and hence authority of scripture.

Historically, the Church believes and expresses that it produced the New Testament and the list of books it considers canonical, i.e. that belong in the Bible. So, the Catholic Church ought to be the best place to learn and study the Bible. But, to me, there is the darker side that I describe above.

I don’t know how any non-Catholic can join the Church without feeling a bit discouraged about what s/he finds here. (I must remind myself that historical criticism began among Protestants before it was imported. Too bad we didn’t just import the fundamentalism instead.)
 
Perhaps a more direct question for Bob Mc, a matter which I haven’t seen discussed here, is

How do YOU use a concordance? What do YOU use it for?

Thanks
 
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BayCityRickL:
Perhaps a more direct question for Bob Mc, a matter which I haven’t seen discussed here, is

How do YOU use a concordance? What do YOU use it for?

Thanks
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That’s not the subject of the post. He wants to know where he can find a concordance for a catholic bible.

And just for your education a concordance is used to find bible verses. For example say you know a verse or part of it. You look up key words(let’s just say the word baptism) and there will be a list of all the verses including the word baptism. Then you go look up that verse in the bible. The next time you are in a bookstore, go to the religion section and you will find one you can look at.(or maybe your local library may have one.) Oh yeah and most are made to correspond to a particular bible version such as the King James version.
 
Bob Mc:
I am a new Catholic. Catholic Bibles I see for sale lack a concordance in the back of book. When I was a Baptist and when I was an AG, I could always flip to it to find something. Now as a Catholic, I remember some phrase from some verse and can find nothing until I get out my Thompson Chain Reference or Scofield or NIV at home.

Is there a Catholic Bible with a concordance?
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This may help. I did a google search for *searchable catholic bibles *
and a whole list of links for online bibles came up. Try it.
 
Someone else already directed you to the very same Bible that this one is, but I thought I would share it anyhow seeing as it’s absolutely gorgeous! The only difference, from what I know, is that the black one and this one have a different cover.
 
Todd Easton:
Stampley’s Deluxe Catholic Family Bible (Revised Standard Version - Catholic Edition), includes a 256 page dictionary and concordance.
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OT - but out of curiosity - if anyone has this Bible, could you give me the dimensions? I have seen it several places online without any dimensions listed, and since I think it is a quite nice looking family Bible (especially since I am single and a traditional white family Bible might be a little odd - for that matter a family Bible may be too weird anyway) I was wondering if its size would prohibit its use as a Bible for use at home?
 
AmISearching?:
OT - but out of curiosity - if anyone has this Bible, could you give me the dimensions? I have seen it several places online without any dimensions listed, and since I think it is a quite nice looking family Bible (especially since I am single and a traditional white family Bible might be a little odd - for that matter a family Bible may be too weird anyway) I was wondering if its size would prohibit its use as a Bible for use at home?
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It is described in the Leaflet Missal Company catalog as having 1500 pages and measuring 8.75" x 11.25"
 
I have a pocket concordance for the NAB, I got it from Autom, but have seen it in other Catholic book catalogs including Leaflet missalette (it is blue and yellow, the size of a thick paperback). I also have a Dictionary of Biblical Theology, which also functions as a condordance, from Word Among Us-Emmaus Press. It is a large, thick blue paperback.
 
Just a note of caution on using your strong concordance. It is a Protestant book with Protestant theology. It does not mention certain verses with words, like authority, if it conflicts with Protestant theology.

Still helpful, but truly not “exhaustive”.

God Bless,
Maria
 
I don’t have a good Bible with a concordance reference in it, but I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE my A Texual Concordance of the Holy Scriptures by Father Thomas David Williams!!! It’s published by Tan Books and Publishers, INC. It is an amazing resource for Catholic Scriptural Theology. I can’t tell you enough how much this text has helped my husband (a Baptist convert to Catholicism) and me (cradle Catholic).

Hope that helps. . .If you get the book, I know it will!
 
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ekim61:
That’s not the subject of the post. He wants to know where he can find a concordance for a catholic bible.
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Ouch. My momma told me there’d be days like this.

OK, let’s be precise and to the point. When you shop for a bible, you should look for the presence of a concordance that corresponds to that translation, whether it is published in the same volume or in a separate volume.

A useful alternate is to have your favorite version of the Bible in a software version. These usually have a ‘search’ feature which can locate the word throughout a range of books that you specify.

Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance has accompanying Hebrew and Greek dictionaries, so that one can compare how the translators related the translation to the original.

(No one doubts that Strong’s has a bias but then every concordance would. )

I would then compare the results from looking into Strong’s with the text in my preferred version of the Bible. That would help understand the Catholic translators’ perspective and also help to gain some insight into non-Catholic points of view.

While it may be biased, Strong’s does certainly set a high standard for a Catholic concordance to meet. As yet, I haven’t found one, although I, too, would be interested when such a scholarly work would be introduced.

As an aside, after we Catholics conclude the ‘Year of the Eucharist’ I’d like to see a decade of the Bible, in which Catholic scholarship on the Bible would flourish at all levels.
 
AmISearching?:
OT - but out of curiosity - if anyone has this Bible, could you give me the dimensions? I have seen it several places online without any dimensions listed, and since I think it is a quite nice looking family Bible (especially since I am single and a traditional white family Bible might be a little odd - for that matter a family Bible may be too weird anyway) I was wondering if its size would prohibit its use as a Bible for use at home?
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I just fished an old Ignatius catalog out of the junk paper, & it says 9x12. It also comes in a nice black cover…
This was a Bible I had considered getting at one time…(I ended up with a Douay, but that is another story)…Which is why I still had a :o year old catalog, probably…😛 .
 
Bob Mc:
I am a new Catholic. Catholic Bibles I see for sale lack a concordance in the back of book. When I was a Baptist and when I was an AG, I could always flip to it to find something. Now as a Catholic, I remember some phrase from some verse and can find nothing until I get out my Thompson Chain Reference or Scofield or NIV at home.
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How about a complete Catholic Concordance (I assume based on the Douay-Rheims version):

allcatholicbooks.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=ACB&Product_Code=R25x47&Category_Code=R

Concordance to the Bible - Roman Catholic Bks

Price: $63.70

Rev. Newton Thompson, S.T.D. and Raymond Stock Durable oversized hardcover “Priests have long been hoping for a Catholic Concordance. Here is one – and a good one.” --Ecclesiastical Review, 1942 “For many years there has been a wide, urgent demand for an English work … which provides the reader with every passage of the Bible containing a given word. But the labor involved is so nearly prohibitive that the demand has remained unsatisfied all these years. Now at long last comes the volume named above…It will assist many a person – general reader, student, controversialist, writer, preacher. It will even be a help to those who wish to meditate upon the sacred text; and it will spread acquaintance with both the Old Testament and the New.”–Catholic World As useful a tool as a Bible commentary. Hardcover (CTBC)

I’ve ordered it myself but it’s not come yet. Nearly all Protestant Concordances (including Strong’s which I have and like) would omit any reference to the Deutero-Canonical Books.

Fr David Straut
 
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JaneFrances:
I don’t have a good Bible with a concordance reference in it, but I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE my A Texual Concordance of the Holy Scriptures by Father Thomas David Williams!!! It’s published by Tan Books and Publishers, INC. It is an amazing resource for Catholic Scriptural Theology. I can’t tell you enough how much this text has helped my husband (a Baptist convert to Catholicism) and me (cradle Catholic).

Hope that helps. . .If you get the book, I know it will!
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Yes, I was thinking of this one. I was going to go to my bookshelf to get it out so I could say something about it.

My husbands very learned (and now retired) Lutheran Minister was at our house one day when he saw it and wanted to look at it - he thought it was a very good source book!

Of course we have a Strong’s Concordance in our house as my husband is a Lutheran and takes his faith very seriously! Haven’t seen him use it lately but he has several Protestant versions of the Bible on the computer. I have a CD-Rom of the Bible as well that has a “search engine” in it. It is the RSV-CE. Don’t know if that is a good version or not but it helps me and then I go to my Douay Rheims hard copy 😃

Brenda V.
 
Eerdmans Analytical concordance of the RSV includes the only known concordance to the apocryphal books (at least according to Scott Hahn). It also shows which hebrew or greek word the english was translated from. Scott Hahn recoomends it #1 over Strongs and Youngs in his “How to Study the Bible” Cd set. However it is out of print. I got mine on Amazon for $50. I have seen people say they’ve gotten it for as little as $5 on ebay. Currently there are 2 on amazon but they are $150. I got mine in the mail today and am looking forward to using it!
 
There’s at least one for the Douay-Rheims version but you can save money and find a word search engine for that particular Bible (as that Bible is written on a webpages on the net).
Maybe the one I have is the TAN version mentioned above. I don’t know who publishes the one I have but it’s big and blue. There’s another big one of a different color out there as well. It may be Douay-Rheims as well.
 
The Douay Bible at www.drbo.org has a search feature…very handy for when I’m on the Apologetics forum and don’t have a Bible within reach and can’t remember a verse.

-ACEGC
 
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