Confession before receiving the Eucharist

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Hi everyone,

I am a Protestant and will begin RCIA next month - I’m not 100% sure of my decision to convert yet, but I’m praying that God will really use the classes to guide my heart to Him. In the meantime, I have plenty of questions that I’ve come to realize these forums are a great place to get answered. 🙂

Obviously I am new to the idea of confession, and am having a hard time clarifying between mortal sin and venial sin. I know the three characteristics of mortal sin, and I know that to receive the Eucharist with mortal sin on your soul is a mortal sin in itself… so wouldn’t it be most appropriate to go to confession every week before Mass? I don’t want to seem like I am judging other people (or maybe I am just suffering from scrupulosity and worry) but it seems almost impossible to me to go an entire week without committing a mortal sin, and I don’t hear of many people going to confession weekly, yet almost everyone at Mass receives the Eucharist. Maybe I’m overestimating what qualifies as a mortal sin. Any advice is greatly appreciated. 🙂

PS - I also know that it IS best to confess as often as possible!
 
Examination of Conscience

The above is a good examination of conscience that does a fine job of enumerating mortal and venial sins. A lot of the examinations out there are so vague that they don’t teach you anything about sin, and it makes people either too scrupulous or too lax.

As far as weekly confession, my wife and I go every week, even if there are only venial sins on your conscience. We have found it to be a huge help in avoiding mortal sin. Grace is awesome! And God rewards humility. In having to acknowledge your sin, you are acknowledging your inability to save yourself. You open yourself up to God’s grace and He is quick to give you fortitude.
 
so wouldn’t it be most appropriate to go to confession every week before Mass?
Yes. Even if you haven’t committed a mortal sin, you get many graces from confession which help you to overcome even your venial sins, which in turn, helps you to avoid mortal sin. My wife and I, and our four children go to confession together weekly, and attend daily Mass together. Receiving the Eucharist daily also gives us many graces to help overcome sin.

You’re correct in your observation that you find many more people receiving the Eucharist than you see in most confession lines. This is due to poor catechises over so many years. Fortunately, people at many parishes are now being encouraged by good holy priests to go to frequent confession.

If you’ll be entering RCIA at a parish that doesn’t have long confession lines, more than likely, people aren’t being catechised properly there. I encourage you to find a more faithful parish to learn about Catholicism.

May God bless you on your journey!
 
Hi everyone,

I am a Protestant and will begin RCIA next month - I’m not 100% sure of my decision to convert yet, but I’m praying that God will really use the classes to guide my heart to Him. In the meantime, I have plenty of questions that I’ve come to realize these forums are a great place to get answered. 🙂

Obviously I am new to the idea of confession, and am having a hard time clarifying between mortal sin and venial sin. I know the three characteristics of mortal sin, and I know that to receive the Eucharist with mortal sin on your soul is a mortal sin in itself… so wouldn’t it be most appropriate to go to confession every week before Mass? I don’t want to seem like I am judging other people (or maybe I am just suffering from scrupulosity and worry) but it seems almost impossible to me to go an entire week without committing a mortal sin, and I don’t hear of many people going to confession weekly, yet almost everyone at Mass receives the Eucharist. Maybe I’m overestimating what qualifies as a mortal sin. Any advice is greatly appreciated. 🙂

PS - I also know that it IS best to confess as often as possible!
In addition to reviewing the 10 Commandments, I find it helpful to review the 7 deadly Sins: Envy, Greed, Gluttony, Pride, Anger, Lust and Sloth.

The older I get the more I have come to appreciate and understand confession. I find it important to keep in mind that Christ gave us confession for our own good - not to embarrass or punish us in some way. He became a man - not because He had to, but because sharing our frailties He strengthens us - He knows our weaknesses because He lived as one of us. He has indeed walked in our shoes and knows us - and loves us anyway.

It’s important to not fall into scrupulosity or presumption. The threshold for a mortal sin is high - how often do we truly fully and freely choose to commit a grave sin? But, the downside is very low, too - we must have a moral alarm system so we do not just grant ourselves absolution (even if we are harder on ourselves than the priest probably will be).

My suggestion is to go frequently if you can and do your best to humbly ask forgiveness even when you can’t. As for others, well we all are sinners - pray for them. Talk with them if appropriate. Neither you nor they are perfect - leave that up to God - if you can, and if you can’t - put it on the list to confess. 🙂
 
A lot of people at church go up and receive communion without having been to confession in ages… years… but you are right, we cannot judge.

As a convert myself, these are things we notice I suppose, as we are learning about the sacraments and how they work.

I love being in a state of grace and I love receiving the Eucharist. It is amazing. I used to wonder why so many other Catholics didn’t partake in these wonderful sacraments more? They are right there for all to be blessed with.
 
Congratulations on starting RCIA soon.

I try and go to confession bi-weekly (even just for venial sins) and of course I go before receiving the Body of Christ if I’ve committed a mortal sin.

Where have you “heard” that a lot of people don’t go to confession weekly? Just curious. Just because you see almost everyone receiving the Eucharist at Mass please don’t think they haven’t gone to confession. Maybe they went to another parish? Maybe they haven’t committed any mortal sins? Just some things to ponder.

Yes, people seem to not partake in confession like they did, say, 20 years ago, but I try not to automatically assume that they aren’t going because I don’t see long lines.

Here’s a good link describing what mortal sin is:
saintaquinas.com/mortal_sin.html

Congrats again! 🙂
 
Only go as fast as the Holy Spirit leads you. It’s not easy, sometimes, being a convert. There are still things that I feel uneasy with… sometimes the past upbringing (in my case non-Catholic Christian) will grab hold of those vulnerable spots and cause great turmoil regarding Catholicism. And like you, sometimes one of my vulnerable spots is confession.

Before I became Catholic, all I had to do was repent, and I knew I was instantly forgiven. I had assurance of salvation. But when I became Catholic, everyone seems to say that the assurance of salvation that I know to be true… isn’t real… even though I know to still work my salvation out in fear and trembling. I don’t like to mention it, and I mean no harm by mentioning it, but it’s sadly the truth.

Also, as I mentioned before, all I had to do was repent; but now that I’ve converted, I have to wait for Saturday confession (tough circumstances prevent)… I must wait: not to repent, but to be forgiven & to avoid damnation. I actually almost broke down in the confessional this past weekend, telling the priest that “it used to be that all I would have to do was repent, and my sins would be wiped away, removed far away, forever… but now that I’m Catholic, I have to go to confession to be forgiven- and what if I die before then? I’ve heard priests say a person WILL go to hell with mortal sin on their soul. Even though I hear that I can say an act of “perfect” contrition, there’s no assurance that I did. But I know in my heart that I’m truly sorry for having offended God”. (There’s a lot that goes into the prescription for a perfect act of contrition. I know I can’t remember or even understand everything.) He comforted me by saying that I was already forgiven before I went to confession, and what we were celebrating at the sacrament of reconciliation was God’s forgiveness.

As I said, I’m a convert, and these are the hidden struggles of a convert. I don’t like to talk about them publicly, because I fear people misunderstanding or thinking I’m mentioning such things for uncouth reasons. It’s just the honest truth, and something that I wish I had known that I would have problems with before I converted, because it has caused much distress. Not always though. Just on and off again.

My background is one that is a spirit-filled Christian/Messianic denomination. I have a very Jewish spirit, and I often find myself having big reservations with certain things that many Jewish people would. In my case, reservations would include devotions to anyone but God (the Trinity), kneeling in the confessional (I have a hard time kneeling before a human or statue even though I know it’s not in worship). There are other things, but I don’t remember them all right now… and it’s probably best that I don’t recall such things. Right now, I’m in a comfortable place. I have several upsets in my spiritual conscience regarding certain aspects of Catholicism.

Now as Catholics we must accept dogma. Luckily, I don’t know what all the dogmas are. I’ve skimmed through them, and I didn’t see anything that sent up warning flags. So thankfully I’ve found a way to accept them as truth (including the ones I don’t know of), if they really are true, which the Catholic Church says that they are. And for right now, that’s all I can do, and I leave it at that. Forgive the cliché, but ignorance is bliss at times. At least for this sad little convert. But I try, I try. Very much so.

At my lowest points, I’ve only remained Catholic because 1) the Eucharist and 2) because if you leave you risk going to hell. My husband says “It’s not a mafia, they won’t break your legs if you leave”. It’s not the breaking of ligaments I would be worried about if I left; it’s my soul. But at my highest points, I’ve been a fervent defender of the church. It can be a roller coaster for converts. I don’t know; maybe I joined too early. Sometimes I feel its just way, way too hard & spiritually, emotionally draining for me. The strong Catholic times are wonderful, but the weaker moments are anguish. Maybe I didn’t think things through. Or maybe, the Holy Spirit led me to join the Catholic Church, and at the right time. I don’t know. All I know is that for some, it isn’t easy. But it was never about it being easy or hard, it was never about one theology or the other; it was about Jesus: the Eucharist and the church that He gave to the world so that there would be guidance and no division. And even after the ups and downs, my conscience is clean, because it was about Jesus from the very beginning.

My only advice… my best advice: only go as fast as the Holy Spirit will lead you. That’s all you can do.:hug3:.

As for knowing the difference about whether something is a venial or mortal sin: for it to be a mortal sin, you must KNOW that it is a mortal sin. It’s one of the requirements for a mortal sin to be mortal.
 
Hi everyone,

I am a Protestant and will begin RCIA next month - I’m not 100% sure of my decision to convert yet, but I’m praying that God will really use the classes to guide my heart to Him. In the meantime, I have plenty of questions that I’ve come to realize these forums are a great place to get answered. 🙂

Obviously I am new to the idea of confession, and am having a hard time clarifying between mortal sin and venial sin. I know the three characteristics of mortal sin, and I know that to receive the Eucharist with mortal sin on your soul is a mortal sin in itself… so wouldn’t it be most appropriate to go to confession every week before Mass? I don’t want to seem like I am judging other people (or maybe I am just suffering from scrupulosity and worry) but it seems almost impossible to me to go an entire week without committing a mortal sin, and I don’t hear of many people going to confession weekly, yet almost everyone at Mass receives the Eucharist. Maybe I’m overestimating what qualifies as a mortal sin. Any advice is greatly appreciated. 🙂

PS - I also know that it IS best to confess as often as possible!
Congratulations and blessings on your decision to take instruction in the Catholic Church.

As an old timer, I can say Catholics used to make use of the Sacrament of Penance much more frequently - weekly, for many. They weren’t necessarily ‘in sin’ but Penance is a Sacrament, and each of the sacraments gives a special grace which helps one to carry out the particular purpose of the sacrament.

The sacramental grace of Penance is a curative grace which helps us detest sin effectively, to satisfy sin effectively, to satisfy for sin committed, and to avoid future sin.

Many many Catholics today, after Vatican II, believe that making a firm Act of Contrition, ('but most of all because I have offended Thee my God, who art all good, and worthy of all my love) is sufficient. That’s their conscience.

Once received into the Church, make use of Penance as often as you feel necessary, without becoming overly-scrupulous about it.

God give you grace to perservere.

mgrfin
 
Hi everyone,

I am a Protestant and will begin RCIA next month - I’m not 100% sure of my decision to convert yet, but I’m praying that God will really use the classes to guide my heart to Him. In the meantime, I have plenty of questions that I’ve come to realize these forums are a great place to get answered. 🙂

Obviously I am new to the idea of confession, and am having a hard time clarifying between mortal sin and venial sin. I know the three characteristics of mortal sin, and I know that to receive the Eucharist with mortal sin on your soul is a mortal sin in itself… so wouldn’t it be most appropriate to go to confession every week before Mass? I don’t want to seem like I am judging other people (or maybe I am just suffering from scrupulosity and worry) but it seems almost impossible to me to go an entire week without committing a mortal sin, and I don’t hear of many people going to confession weekly, yet almost everyone at Mass receives the Eucharist. Maybe I’m overestimating what qualifies as a mortal sin. Any advice is greatly appreciated. 🙂

PS - I also know that it IS best to confess as often as possible!
  1. LOVE for GOD. By this we make perfect contrition. I am sorry for my sins, because they offend GOD.
  2. Don’t want to go to hell. By this we make imperfect contrition. I am sorry for my sins, because i don’t want to be damned.
  3. Persistance in sin even venial sin can lead to death. The mortal sins are the sins which carry penalty of death, if not repented.
  4. Forgive us our tresspasses “as” we forgive those that tresspass against us. First be reconciled with your brother whom you’ve sinned against, then confess your sin, and be forgiven.
  5. Resolve not to sin again, making your act of contrition, and doing your pennace.
  6. Sinning 7 times 70 times you’ll find the LORD is MERCIFUL.
  7. Confession is sacremental pennace, but all the Sacrements are penitential and point to the HOLY EUCHARIST where our sins are finally washed in the BLOOD OF THE LAMB and we are united to CHRIST in a marriage bond of the flesh.
  8. I’m glad you are getting off on the right foot, i hope you don’t lose that fervor. You are right many, even cradle Catholics, seem to take these things for granted, either lacking faith or zeal, and don’t seem to find a need to go to confession regularly. Though i’m sure the most of them take regular showers, they clearly don’t seem to see the need for cleansing of the soul in confession. The Bible clear on the need to confess, that the righteous may pray for us, and in TRUTH there is only one forgiver of sin, and one righteous before GOD, JESUS CHRIST, which is all the more reason for the priest acting in persona christi to pray for us.
  9. Confessing regularly also bestows grace to overcome sin when temptations strikes.
    You’ll find much more about this in the Catechism (clearly i’m not infallible but this is my perspective on confession hopefully GOD-given perspective)
GOD bless you in your EUCHARISTIC journey.
 
A lot of people at church go up and receive communion without having been to confession in ages… years… but you are right, we cannot judge.
Matthew 13:30 *Suffer both to grow until the harvest, and in the time of the harvest I will say to the reapers: Gather up first the cockle, and bind it into bundles to burn, but the wheat gather ye into my barn.
 
Before I became Catholic, all I had to do was repent, and I knew I was instantly forgiven. I had assurance of salvation. But when I became Catholic, everyone seems to say that the assurance of salvation that I know to be true… isn’t real… even though I know to still work my salvation out in fear and trembling. I don’t like to mention it, and I mean no harm by mentioning it, but it’s sadly the truth.

Also, as I mentioned before, all I had to do was repent; but now that I’ve converted, I have to wait for Saturday confession (tough circumstances prevent)… I must wait: not to repent, but to be forgiven & to avoid damnation. I actually almost broke down in the confessional this past weekend, telling the priest that “it used to be that all I would have to do was repent, and my sins would be wiped away, removed far away, forever… but now that I’m Catholic, I have to go to confession to be forgiven- and what if I die before then? I’ve heard priests say a person WILL go to hell with mortal sin on their soul. Even though I hear that I can say an act of “perfect” contrition, there’s no assurance that I did. But I know in my heart that I’m truly sorry for having offended God”. (There’s a lot that goes into the prescription for a perfect act of contrition. I know I can’t remember or even understand everything.) He comforted me by saying that I was already forgiven before I went to confession, and what we were celebrating at the sacrament of reconciliation was God’s forgiveness.

As I said, I’m a convert, and these are the hidden struggles of a convert. I don’t like to talk about them publicly, because I fear people misunderstanding or thinking I’m mentioning such things for uncouth reasons. It’s just the honest truth, and something that I wish I had known that I would have problems with before I converted, because it has caused much distress. Not always though. Just on and off again.
La-Petite-Fleur, thank you so much for your post… it’s so good to know that someone else knows what I am feeling. I’ve been really encouraged by the passion of the converts that I have read on these forums, but nobody has really spoken of any struggles they faced in their decision. One of the things that actually made me consider whether or not I should begin RCIA is that I do have these stumbling blocks. I know prayer and study will help to ease my disbelief and discomfort, but in the meantime it’s so good to know that I’m not alone!
 
Where have you “heard” that a lot of people don’t go to confession weekly? Just curious. Just because you see almost everyone receiving the Eucharist at Mass please don’t think they haven’t gone to confession. Maybe they went to another parish? Maybe they haven’t committed any mortal sins? Just some things to ponder.
Maybe “heard” was the wrong word. I guess I mean that many of my Catholic friends (including my best friend) don’t make a weekly practice of it. Not to say that they underestimate its importance, but I definitely see more of their devotion to the Eucharist, through Mass and Adoration. I never want to assume anything about anyone… I apologize if I sounded judgmental in the least! 😦
 
For whatever reason, I didn’t have a lot of questions in RCIA… I was 19 and I hadn’t been baptised into any faith at that point so that might be why. But as I am older, I have more questions…
 
Liz,

I understand your concerns about the ritual of confession. It is tempting to fall into a legalism that can lead to despair. I have gone through some tough times with confession, more than I care to elaborate on. But I can honestly say that most of my problems have been because of a legal approach to this Sacrament. When I started looking at Confession as a returning to the Father, and when I started looking at sin as a rejection of love, when I started looking at God’s mercy and provision as something worthy of my trust, then I started looking at grace in a new way. Grace wasn’t someting dispensed in a confessional like a soda pop machine (which was how I was looking at it), it was much more. It’s hard to put into words, but I’ve been through that stage of confession, and I’ve come through to the other side.

I would highly recommend In Conversation with God, a daily liturgical-based devotional by an Opus Dei priest who is very solid. It helped me learn to look at God and forgiveness in a healthier way. I also recommend this read: Understanding Scrupulosity.
 
Only go as fast as the Holy Spirit leads you. It’s not easy, sometimes, being a convert. There are still things that I feel uneasy with… sometimes the past upbringing (in my case non-Catholic Christian) will grab hold of those vulnerable spots and cause great turmoil regarding Catholicism. And like you, sometimes one of my vulnerable spots is confession.

Before I became Catholic, all I had to do was repent, and I knew I was instantly forgiven. I had assurance of salvation. But when I became Catholic, everyone seems to say that the assurance of salvation that I know to be true… isn’t real… even though I know to still work my salvation out in fear and trembling. I don’t like to mention it, and I mean no harm by mentioning it, but it’s sadly the truth.

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I am sorry that Penance, Repentenance, and the Sacrament of Penance has been presented to you in the wrong way.

Nothing has changed since before your conversion. Kneeling down, and telling God you are sorry for your sins “but most of all, because I have offended Thee my God who are all good, and deserving of all my love” is what is necessary to bring things aright with God.

One of the reasons we have the Sacrament of Penance is when our motivations aren’t so ‘pure’, for example, sorrow because we are afraid of going to Hell for our sins.

According to Catholic doctrine, (Trent, Sess XIV, chap iv) the act of perfect contrition results in immediate justification of the sinner. By the infusion of grace and charity the soul becomes once more a friend of God, a member of Christ’s mystical body, and an heir with Christ to life eternal.

Every Catholic is aware that perfect contrition remits sin even before the sin has been confessed. But this does not mean that it is forgiven apart from all connection with the sacrament. Perfect contrition reconciles man to God before the sacrament has been received, yet it does so only by virtue of the desire for the sacrament, which is included, at least implicitly, in the act of contrition itself.
Keep the faith.
mgrfin
 
Maybe “heard” was the wrong word. I guess I mean that many of my Catholic friends (including my best friend) don’t make a weekly practice of it. Not to say that they underestimate its importance, but I definitely see more of their devotion to the Eucharist, through Mass and Adoration. I never want to assume anything about anyone… I apologize if I sounded judgmental in the least! 😦
I can go back to 1950. On a Saturday afternoon in the local parish, there were four priests hearing confessions from 4 until 6, with lines of people. In the evening of the say day, confession lines were long from 7:30 til 9 PM.

So there is quite a bit of lessening in those availing themselves of the Sacrament of Penance.

Peace

mgrfin
 
I can go back to 1950. On a Saturday afternoon in the local parish, there were four priests hearing confessions from 4 until 6, with lines of people. In the evening of the say day, confession lines were long from 7:30 til 9 PM.

So there is quite a bit of lessening in those availing themselves of the Sacrament of Penance.

Peace

mgrfin
Just last week the line for confession at my parish was extremely long. Mass actually started 10 minutes late because of it.
 
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