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JoeyWarren:
Emad, are you going to refute the article about the rape?
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It is not rape, this issue was discussed numerous times on the WhyIslam forum, if you sincerely seek an answer, go there and you will find it. Also I am reporting all off topic posts to the admins.
 
I will post a new thread with the subject

“Is Mohammed a sinless person”
 
The topic of the thread deals with Protestant responses to the Catholic Sacrament of Confession.

Please stay on topic.

Thanks!
 
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Emad:
The word in Arabic is Ru’b, it doesn’t mean terror as in physicat terrorism, it is used to mean they fear and are terrified of the Muslims in their hearts. This word is used in the Quran numerous times to refer to the fear in their hearts, never is it used to mean anything physical. Also this is off topic. Let’s stay on topic. If you wish to discuss Islam, I told you where you can find your answers, if you are indeed truly looking for them.
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Did you read the article on confession I put the link on? I’m still wondering why you’re so interested in this topic anyway.

Vickie
 
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Booklover:
Did you read the article on confession I put the link on? I’m still wondering why you’re so interested in this topic anyway.

Vickie
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No I didn’t read it, I don’t like links, but I will go back and read it when I find time. Is there something wrong with me being interested in this topic? It seems many here are against questioning.

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Emad:
Sir Knight:
I answered this a few says ago. It isn’t the person of the priest but the office of the priest that is representative of God just as in the Bible we see Jesus telling the people to do as the Pharisies SAY but not as they DO. Jesus recognized the sinfulness of the Pharisies as individuals but acknowledged the office that they held.

Same logic applies to the office of the priesthood.
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Yes, but it doesn’t make sense to me for obvious reasons I mentioned before. We are humans and wouldn’t except anyone evil to represent us, why would God when He is has a greater right of being represented by good people.
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According to our beliefs, Jesus WAS God and He still acknowledge the authority of the sinful pharisies when it came to matters of faith even when calling them a brood of vipers for their own sinful actions.
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Emad:
I don’t get your question, however as Muslims we believe Prophets aren’t sinners. They make mistakes, but they don’t sin, especially major sins. That is a different subject in itself. So God chose those who had no sins, ie prophets, everyone else is a sinner and can’t fully represent God on earth.
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Scripture tells us that even the pious man sins seven times a day.
 
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Emad:
No I didn’t read it, I don’t like links, but I will go back and read it when I find time. Is there something wrong with me being interested in this topic? It seems many here are against questioning.

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Well, the OP stated a special interest in the views of Protestants on the question of confession to priests. So, my guess is that some are wondering why a Muslim is active on the thread.
 
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Irene:
So, my guess is that some are wondering why a Muslim is active on the thread.
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Sorry I will leave this thread, won’t post in it anymore.
 
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Irene:
Well, the OP stated a special interest in the views of Protestants on the question of confession to priests. So, my guess is that some are wondering why a Muslim is active on the thread.
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Since the Op was one of the people actively involved in Answering Emad’s questions, I fail to see where the problem lies.

Why is anyone of a different religion (or even the same one!) interested in things? To at the very least, gain new understanding. The more we understand anothers religion, the easier it is to help them see the truth:D .

Although Emad will try to help us Catholics see error in our religion, we try to show the truth of it. And with the Holy Spirit shining the light of truth, maybe seeds will grow. (I am sure Emad is praying for the us to see the truth, but he has yet to be disrepectful of Catholic teachings, just unconvinced.)

Please, unless the OP asks you to leave, feel free to continue to question things Emad. That is what these forums are for.

God Bless,
Maria
 
Oh! Emad, I did **not **mean you should leave, just that some might be curious as to the direction the thread took. I found it very enlightening, myself. I’m so sorry if my words made you feel unwelcome :o . Please stay.
 
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Emad:
No I didn’t read it, I don’t like links, but I will go back and read it when I find time. Is there something wrong with me being interested in this topic? It seems many here are against questioning.

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The only reason I said that is because you seemed more interested in bringing up the sex abuse scandals than in really learning about the sacrament of penance!

Vickie
 
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sadie2723:
John 20:23 Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained.

James 5:16 16 Confess therefore your sins one to another: and pray one for another, that you may be saved. For the continual prayer of a just man availeth much.

In both of these passages, we see that Jesus gives men the power to forgive sins. He goes on further to say that if we confess sins to each other and then pray for each other, that salvation awaits.

Why do it? Well, Jesus tells us to do so. What is the point of it? To repent of our sins and sin no more.
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yes, your correct… and men in that verse doesn’t mean the priest but all of us.
 
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mesher:
yes, your correct… and men in that verse doesn’t mean the priest but all of us.
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I disagree with you there. You see, in that passage, Jesus is talking to his priests…the disciples. And, through apostolic succession, the priests here with us today are decedents of those great men.
 
“I absolve you from your sins in the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.”

Matthew 9:2 Then behold, they brought to Him a paralytic lying on a bed. When Jesus saw their faith, HE said to the paralytic, “Son, be of good cheer. Your sins are forgiven you”
v.3 And at once the scribes said within themselves, THIS MAN BLASPHEMES.
v.6 But that you may know that the SON OF MAN has power on earth to forgive sins.
 
SDAgirl said:
“I absolve you from your sins in the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.”

Matthew 9:2 Then behold, they brought to Him a paralytic lying on a bed. When Jesus saw their faith, HE said to the paralytic, “Son, be of good cheer. Your sins are forgiven you”
v.3 And at once the scribes said within themselves, THIS MAN BLASPHEMES.
v.6 But that you may know that the SON OF MAN has power on earth to forgive sins.
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John 20:19-23

19 Now when it was late that same day, the first of the week, and the doors were shut, where the disciples were gathered together, for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood in the midst, and said to them: Peace be with you.
20 And when he had said this, he showed them his hands and his side. The disciples therefore were glad, when they saw the Lord.
21 He said therefore to them again: Peace be with to you. As the Father has sent me, I also send you.
22 When he had said this, he breathed on them; and he said to them: Receive the Holy Ghost.**
23 Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained.**
 
:cool: As we can see from both above posts from Scripture, Jesus had the authority to forgive sins, and He then gave that authority to the apostles.

Nice work everyone.

God Bless,
Maria
 
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