Consecration to Mary- Can I still pray for intentions?

[Rubia]

Thanks Charles.

Question… Would it also be true to say that all saints would, without exception, lead us to Jesus? And that anything a saint does is for God’s greater glory? Or would the saints point to someone else or glorify someone else? Just to play devil’s advocate for a moment… Why is total consecration to, say, John the Baptist more popular?

Well, Mary is not just any other saint. No other saint is a medium through which all grace has passed on to mankind by God’s privilege. There is a marked difference.

In Mary, Christ the reservoir of every grace passes on to man. In a general way 2000 years ago, but also in an individual sense. Through her yes to God, mankind receives every single grace because through her yes, mankind receives Jesus Christ. Thus, nothing we have through grace is disconnected from her. She is ever present as a participant. She is filled with grace maximally. God has given her a privilege that only her son surpasses (infinitely).

There is no total consecration to any other saint but there is consecration to St Joseph and the Holy family and I think in limited sense to other saints. Usually, most consecration is to Jesus and Mary.

Unlike any other saint, Mary never sinned even slightly. She never was separated from God. At every moment of her earthly life in every act of cooperation, her grace was multiplied manifold in levels going beyond human comprehension. The church says God has filled her with every possible grace such that after Christ, a greater holiness cannot be imagined. She is holier than all saints and angels put together. So much so that the church teaches that the reverence we owe her, which is not supposed to be worship–latria, is different and greater than the reverence we owe all other saints. That the church considers it in a separate category of its own and gives it a different label: Hyperdulia. (To the saints, we owe the reverence of dulia). Consecration to Mary is an expression of Hyperdulia.

Therefore, Mary is not like a regular saint. No saint considers himself her equal by a long shot and the church does not consider anyone besides Jesus to be either greater or even equal to her. She is the Queen of all the church, all the saints and all the angels. That is the privilege that comes with being mother of God. You are very safe in her hands. God himself has given her that privilege and guarantee.

 

[whiterockdove]

I am in this process of making a consecration to Mary and also a Newbie Catholic of just a few years.
Initially, I was hesitant to explore things like devotions, consecrations, confraternities, third or secular orders because of a concern of “taking my eyes off the prize” of aligning my will with Our Lord’s.
My own experiences of exploring these things and sticking with them has led to a deepening of my faith.
The Holy Spirit has given me a lot of consolation and comfort, just in things that happen in my day, be it an experience with a person I meet, a reading that I come across having to do with thoughts I had the day before during prayer, a sacramental that comes my way, a holy card or a novena found in my messy desk! I tend to suffer over the details but our Parish Priest is very patient and answers any questions that I have.

May God continue to bless him, may Our Blessed Mother continue to protect him and all
Spiritual directors.
St. Louis De Montfort, pray for us!
Sacred Heart of Jesus, pray for us!
Immaculate Heart of Mary. Pray for us!

 

[Dorothy]

Thanks be to God that our Lord Jesus Christ gave his mother to us while she stood at the foot of the cross in perfect union with Him.

 

[godisgood77]

Well, Mary is not just any other saint. No other saint is a medium through which all grace has passed on to mankind by God’s privilege. There is a marked difference.

In Mary, Christ the reservoir of every grace passes on to man. In a general way 2000 years ago, but also in an individual sense. Through her yes to God, mankind receives every single grace because through her yes, mankind receives Jesus Christ. Thus, nothing we have through grace is disconnected from her. She is ever present as a participant. She is filled with grace maximally. God has given her a privilege that only her son surpasses (infinitely).

There is no total consecration to any other saint but there is consecration to St Joseph and the Holy family and I think in limited sense to other saints. Usually, most consecration is to Jesus and Mary.

Unlike any other saint, Mary never sinned even slightly. She never was separated from God. At every moment of her earthly life in every act of cooperation, her grace was multiplied manifold in levels going beyond human comprehension. The church says God has filled her with every possible grace such that after Christ, a greater holiness cannot be imagined. She is holier than all saints and angels put together. So much so that the church teaches that the reverence we owe her, which is not supposed to be worship–latria, is different and greater than the reverence we owe all other saints. That the church considers it in a separate category of its own and gives it a different label: Hyperdulia. (To the saints, we owe the reverence of dulia). Consecration to Mary is an expression of Hyperdulia.

Therefore, Mary is not like a regular saint. No saint considers himself her equal by a long shot and the church does not consider anyone besides Jesus to be either greater or even equal to her. She is the Queen of all the church, all the saints and all the angels. That is the privilege that comes with being mother of God. You are very safe in her hands. God himself has given her that privilege and guarantee.

Thanks so much for the response.

I’m familiar with the concepts of latria, hyperdulia and dulia. My question was a little different though… It was whether or not saints in Heaven would, without fail, lead us to Jesus? And wouldn’t all of every saints actions be for the greater glory of God?

 

[PJM]

=chopstocky;12567187]During my journey through de Monfort’s Total Consecration to Mary I feel I have understood most except one thing: Can I still pray for intentions like the Souls of Purgatory/ deceased members of family/ filling out novena cards for people still living? The Consecration calls for giving EVRYTHING to Mary, our will, our merits and allowing Her to use us as She needs. Does this mean I can’t pray for any intention? What about praying to St. Joseph as a patron of the Church or my family? How do I go about this?

Because ALL prayer are intended to END with God, both He and Mary Herself would encourage us to pray for other contentions:thumbsup:.

 

[JackVk]

By all means, pray for intentions!

Fr. Michael Gaitley, who wrote a new formula of consecration to Mary called 33 Days to Morning Glory, said that we should continue to pray for intentions. It is just that Mary has the final say in how the graces are distributed. He also says not to worry; Mary takes care of her own. She would not neglect any of her children’s needs.

 

[godisgood77]

By all means, pray for intentions!

Fr. Michael Gaitley, who wrote a new formula of consecration to Mary called 33 Days to Morning Glory, said that we should continue to pray for intentions. It is just that Mary has the final say in how the graces are distributed. He also says not to worry; Mary takes care of her own. She would not neglect any of her children’s needs.

I believe it’s the bolded part that causes so much confusion and concern for so many…It is God who determines how His grace is distributed. No one else.

If I am incorrect in this, maybe someone could point me to a passage in the catechism where this is outlined. Certainly such a core tenent of Catholicism would be articulated there.

 

[JackVk]

I believe it’s the bolded part that causes so much confusion and concern for so many…It is God who determines how His grace is distributed. No one else.

If I am incorrect in this, maybe someone could point me to a passage in the catechism where this is outlined. Certainly such a core tenent of Catholicism would be articulated there.

Well, that kinda goes without saying, since Mary’s will is always in perfect conformity with God’s will.

 

[godisgood77]

Well, that kinda goes without saying, since Mary’s will is always in perfect conformity with God’s will.

I guess that is one way look at it, but with respect and in all sincerity, I don’t believe it can not go without saying. Just because Mary’s will is conformed with God’s will, it does not make it one in the same. I believe it is a great offense to our Blessed Mother to act as though her will is one in the same with God’s. According to my years at Catholic School, my years serving at the altar and the Catechesis I have received from my parents and pastors, I have always been taught that we are to resign ourselves to the divine will, no one else. I could be wrong…maybe you or someone can point me a passage in the Catechism where this fundamental tenant is articulated?

My wife, children and I for one will continue to pray to God with Mary, Joseph and the rest of the saints. We will join our voices with theirs in harmony to God with worship, our petitions and our desire to align with His will.

According to the often repeated motto of St. Montfort… 'God alone!

May God bless you according to His will,
Dan

 

[PJM]

=godisgood77;12650318]I believe it’s the bolded part that causes so much confusion and concern for so many…It is God who determines how His grace is distributed. No one else.

If I am incorrect in this, maybe someone could point me to a passage in the catechism where this is outlined. Certainly such a core tenent of Catholicism would be articulated there.

Thank you

Yu ARE correct. God determines; Mary distributes:thumbsup:

 

[godisgood77]

Thank you

Yu ARE correct. God determines; Mary distributes:thumbsup:

Well kind of… Sacramental graces flow directly from God through his priestly ministers, Mary delivers graces for sure, Joseph and the other saints obtain graces and our God delivers graces directly to his people… a diversified portfolio for sure!

 

[maryj]

I guess that is one way look at it, but with respect and in all sincerity, I don’t believe it can not go without saying. Just because Mary’s will is conformed with God’s will, it does not make it one in the same. I believe it is a great offense to our Blessed Mother to act as though her will is one in the same with God’s. According to my years at Catholic School, my years serving at the altar and the Catechesis I have received from my parents and pastors, I have always been taught that we are to resign ourselves to the divine will, no one else. I could be wrong…maybe you or someone can point me a passage in the Catechism where this fundamental tenant is articulated?

My wife, children and I for one will continue to pray to God with Mary, Joseph and the rest of the saints. We will join our voices with theirs in harmony to God with worship, our petitions and our desire to align with His will.

According to the often repeated motto of St. Montfort… 'God alone!

May God bless you according to His will,
Dan

C.C.C. In communion with the Holy Mother of God 2673 thru 2675