Considering the Mass

[CatholicSamurai]

Someone help me figure this out.

Why does God still invite us to Mass even when we’re in mortal sin? I understand that one must not receive communion in mortal sin yet we are still invited to celebrate Mass.

I want to hear your philosophical (name removed by moderator)ut on this issue.

Thanks.

 

[VociMike]

Because as long as we are alive, we can still hear and heed the call of God.

 

[CatholicNick]

We recieve unimaginable graces for Just being present at the Holy Sacrifice. The ‘point’ of Mass is not to recieve Our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament (which is only legally required to be recieved once a year - but non the less should be recieved as often as possible, as long as one is in a state of Grace.)

Our Lord commenaded us to attend Mass as much as possible, and the church personifies this by requiring us by law to attend Mass every Sunday and on Holy Days of Obligation - ‘Do this in remembrance of me’

 

[Walking_Home]

Someone help me figure this out.

Why does God still invite us to Mass even when we’re in mortal sin? I understand that one must not receive communion in mortal sin yet we are still invited to celebrate Mass.

I want to hear your philosophical (name removed by moderator)ut on this issue.

Thanks.

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I did not know the follow —until I started reading.
Both of the following are connected.

If we are in mortal sin----we need to have at least the desire to be in a state of grace otherwise our attendance at Mass does nothing for us—it is void. If we have the desire to be in a state of grace----Mass will benefit us

Unless there is grave reason (could not find a priest anywhere) -----we are obligated to make an act of perfect contrition with the resolution to confess ASAP.

Code of Canon Law
vatican.va/archive/ENG1104/_INDEX.HTM
Art. 2.

PARTICIPATION IN THE MOST HOLY EUCHARIST

Can. 916 A person who is conscious of grave sin is not to celebrate Mass or receive the body of the Lord without previous sacramental confession unless there is a grave reason and there is no opportunity to confess; in this case the person is to remember the obligation to make an act of perfect contrition which includes the resolution of confessing as soon as possible

Instrumentum Laboris
vatican.va/roman_curia/synod/documents/rc_synod_doc_20050707_instrlabor-xi-assembly_en.html

PART II

THE FAITH OF THE CHURCH
IN THE MYSTERY OF THE EUCHARIST

Chapter I

THE EUCHARIST, GOD’S GIFT TO HIS PEOPLE

“The Mystery of Faith”

Faith and the Celebration of the Eucharist

1. The Lineamenta responses also treat various aspects of the faith required in the celebration of the Eucharist. The Sacrament manifests the primacy of the grace of God, who is always at the origin of everything, and his gift of the Holy Spirit, who makes us participate in his mysterious action in the Sacrament by changing the bread and wine into the Body and Blood of Jesus as well as making us holy. To approach the Eucharistic liturgy without faith in grace or without at least the desire to be in the state of grace, makes void any participation in worshipping in spirit and in truth.

 

[OutinChgoburbs]

“Celebrate Mass” pertains to the priest. He is not supposed to confect the Blessed Sacrament unless he is free from mortal sin.

The congregation can contain anybody, even non-Catholic Christians, the unbaptized, etc.

 

[Cristiano]

If we are in mortal sin----we need to have at least the desire to be in a state of grace otherwise our attendance at Mass does nothing for us—it is void. If we have the desire to be in a state of grace----Mass will benefit us

Unless there is grave reason (could not find a priest anywhere) -----we are obligated to make an act of perfect contrition with the resolution to confess ASAP.

That it is not correct. We must attend Mass every Sunday. Our state of grace does not matter. Receiving Communion can be done only when in a state of grace. We do not receive grace from the Mass because of our predispositon but because of the will of God. Going to Mass will always benefit us, even in a state of mortal sin with no contrition, the Holy Spirit will help us.

Code of Canon Law
vatican.va/archive/ENG1104/_INDEX.HTM
Art. 2.

PARTICIPATION IN THE MOST HOLY EUCHARIST

Can. 916 A person who is conscious of grave sin is not to celebrate Mass or receive the body of the Lord without previous sacramental confession unless there is a grave reason and there is no opportunity to confess; in this case the person is to remember the obligation to make an act of perfect contrition which includes the resolution of confessing as soon as possible

That statement is for the person celebrating the Mass (lay people participate but do not celebrate) and for the people participating in the Eucharist (everybody)

Instrumentum Laboris
vatican.va/roman_curia/synod/documents/rc_synod_doc_20050707_instrlabor-xi-assembly_en.html

PART II

THE FAITH OF THE CHURCH
IN THE MYSTERY OF THE EUCHARIST

Chapter I

THE EUCHARIST, GOD’S GIFT TO HIS PEOPLE

“The Mystery of Faith”

Faith and the Celebration of the Eucharist

1. The Lineamenta responses also treat various aspects of the faith required in the celebration of the Eucharist. The Sacrament manifests the primacy of the grace of God, who is always at the origin of everything, and his gift of the Holy Spirit, who makes us participate in his mysterious action in the Sacrament by changing the bread and wine into the Body and Blood of Jesus as well as making us holy. To approach the Eucharistic liturgy without faith in grace or without at least the desire to be in the state of grace, makes void any participation in worshipping in spirit and in truth.

The approach to the Eucharist Lithurgy means to receive Communion and not just going to Mass. If we receive in a state of mortal sin, we then commit another mortal sin (choosing to be away from God) and that is why the worshipping is void.

 

[Della]

We are still to attend Mass, even if we are in mortal sin, so that we do not commit yet another mortal sin by failing to “keep holy the Sabbath day,” which is still in force for us Christians just as it is for our Jewish brethren (who celebrate it on Saturday because they do not recognize the New Covenant in Christ).

 

[Br.Rich_SFO]

Someone help me figure this out.

Why does God still invite us to Mass even when we’re in mortal sin? I understand that one must not receive communion in mortal sin yet we are still invited to celebrate Mass.

I want to hear your philosophical (name removed by moderator)ut on this issue.

Thanks.

When in Mortal sin we have cut our selves off from God. We cannot receive any Sacramental or Sanctifying Grace. The only Grace we are able to receive is Actual Grace, God calling us back into union with Him through the Sacrament of Reconciliation.

 

[estesbob]

Someone help me figure this out.

Why does God still invite us to Mass even when we’re in mortal sin? I understand that one must not receive communion in mortal sin yet we are still invited to celebrate Mass.

I want to hear your philosophical (name removed by moderator)ut on this issue.

Thanks.

The best place to be(other than the confessional) while in the state of Mortal sin is in the Presence of the Lord.

 

[Walking_Home]

From reading Canons 912 thru 923— it seems when the word person is used----it is used in a general way. Canons specific to the priest----specify priest. I fully well know that the laity do not celebrate -----we attend the celebration.

What some are failing to note is —if we are in a state of mortal sin–it is Faith and God grace that draws us to be in a state of grace. If we have no Faith–then we will not have the desire to be in a state of grace----so therefore we are just taking up space–our participation is void.

That first mortal sin and our lack of Faith----is what does us in.

 

[CRW]

Someone help me figure this out.

Why does God still invite us to Mass even when we’re in mortal sin? I understand that one must not receive communion in mortal sin yet we are still invited to celebrate Mass.

I want to hear your philosophical (name removed by moderator)ut on this issue.

Thanks.

"Are you unaware that we who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were indeed buried with him through baptism into death, so that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might live in newness of life. ’ Rom 6:3-4

Baptism removes all sins, but the effect of Original Sin, concupiscence or the free will to sin remains. Christ calls all to his Body-the head of the Church. We all sin but their is no sin that His love, His Divine Mercy, will not forgive. Once baptized, we are his adopted children. He loves us and wants us to share eternal Love with him. The Mass and sacraments are the tools which prepare us for the glory of God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. God Bless

 

[Caesar]

Someone help me figure this out.

Why does God still invite us to Mass even when we’re in mortal sin? I understand that one must not receive communion in mortal sin yet we are still invited to celebrate Mass.

I want to hear your philosophical (name removed by moderator)ut on this issue.

Thanks.

Even in mortal sin we may still hear the word of God and make a Spiritual Communion.

 

[Pug]

I want to hear your philosophical (name removed by moderator)ut on this issue.

Begin random philosophizings.

If we are in a state of mortal sin, we are precisely the people who need to stand at the foot of the cross on Calvary and beg for mercy. There is salvation in no other. Just Christ. It is his sacrifice that is going to be the salvation of the person who is in mortal sin. Clearly they belong at mass (at the sacrifice of the mass).

They need to beg him to fill them with a desire to repent and be charitable.

Also, it is a precept of the Church to go. So go. Men were made to love and to worship together. Even mortal sinners have some resonance with how they were made. It will affect them adversely not to go.

End musings.

 

[CatholicSamurai]

Oh wow! This is educational! There’s a lot of stuff for me to consider. I’m loving it! Thanks for all the answers and I guess I want more (name removed by moderator)ut from others.

Oh yeah, I guess I should’ve used the word “attend” or “participate” instead of “celebrate”.

 

[CatholicSamurai]

When in Mortal sin we have cut our selves off from God. We cannot receive any Sacramental or Sanctifying Grace. The only Grace we are able to receive is Actual Grace, God calling us back into union with Him through the Sacrament of Reconciliation.

Interesting, I’d like to now more about Actual Grace. Where can I start?

 

[CatholicSamurai]

When in Mortal sin we have cut our selves off from God. We cannot receive any Sacramental or Sanctifying Grace. The only Grace we are able to receive is Actual Grace, God calling us back into union with Him through the Sacrament of Reconciliation.

Interesting, this may be the right direction to take. I’ll read up on the Graces… Thanks.

 

[CatholicSamurai]

That it is not correct. We must attend Mass every Sunday. Our state of grace does not matter. Receiving Communion can be done only when in a state of grace. We do not receive grace from the Mass because of our predispositon but because of the will of God. Going to Mass will always benefit us, even in a state of mortal sin with no contrition, the Holy Spirit will help us.

So you’re saying that regardless of the person’s state, going to Mass gains us benefit through God’s will? Can you site a source that can help me with this? Thanks.