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It wasn’t you that took your numbers to the extreme it was the one that cited your post. That said, blaming contraceptives for the 46% of abortions that occurred after not using contraceptives is a stretch. Also blaming all of the first 54% of abortions is folly because if the contraceptives were properly used the abortions wouldn’t have happened to the extent they did.I was actually fairly detailed in my justification for the 81%. I’m not sure where you go the 10% number. The number was 15% for those not open to using contraception (either because of poverty, lack of education, [8%] or because of some other reason [7])
None of them (pill, condom, NFP, or risk takers), apparantly, expected to get pregnant, it seems, so I’m not sure what your point is here.
You mean the 15% group?
If you look at the study details, you will see that NFP is clearly listed as a contraceptive method. The concerns that this group have include NFP (or at least, they are not aware that NFP is an option through lack of education).
The study says most of these were had taken contraceptives before, so I classified them, at least as not being opposed to contraception, since that category is already declared above (the 15% groups). Take a look at the study. I didn’t make any assertions without quoting evidence from the study.
Here is the actual quotation on the pill and condom users:
hmmm… what about the other 11%? What was their problem with the pill?
So in a perfect, world, if everyone was using the pill properly, the abortion rate would be much lower. Agreed. But the same is also true for the statistics on NFP. If everyone used NFP as advertised and instructed, the unwanted pregnancies and abortion rates would also be as low.
The problem is that we don’t live in a perfect world. There is no sure way to avoid having children (except for sterilization) when you are having sex. And maybe that is the crux of the issue from the Catholic perspective.
And to you as well.
One of the problems with contraceptives in the catholic context is that they are a solution to a problem that the church can’t address. That being that sex is not thought of by most of the people in the world as being solely for procreative reasons.
Its a hurdle that the church will never jump and as a result there will be abortions that result from the church’s policy on contraceptives.
And that (I guess) is why so many catholics use contraceptives, in their minds it is better to disregard the church’s teachings on contraceptives so that the church’s teachings on abortion can be followed.
Peace