Contraception NFP

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My wife and I just had our first child two months ago. In a few months we may begin resuming sexual activity. My wife is not interested in becoming pregnant again for at least another year (and neither am I really). She is a non-practicing Catholic; I am. We have tried NFP in the past multiple times, but IT DID NOT WORK, as her cycle is very irregular. What are our options besides abstaining? If she were to use birth control, am I culpable?
 
My wife and I just had our first child two months ago. In a few months we may begin resuming sexual activity. My wife is not interested in becoming pregnant again for at least another year (and neither am I really). She is a non-practicing Catholic; I am. We have tried NFP in the past multiple times, but IT DID NOT WORK, as her cycle is very irregular. What are our options besides abstaining? If she were to use birth control, am I culpable?
What do you mean by not working? You only have the one child. Also, what methods were you using, and who was doing the record keeping? Have you taken an actual class?

I realize there are some couples that are so ridiculously fertile that they give up and just go totally providentialist, but that doesn’t sound like your case if you have one (1.000) child.

If you were urging her to use birth control, yes, you would be culpable.
 
Is she nursing? Because that would greatly influence the return of her fertility.
 
My wife and I just had our first child two months ago. In a few months we may begin resuming sexual activity. My wife is not interested in becoming pregnant again for at least another year (and neither am I really). She is a non-practicing Catholic; I am. We have tried NFP in the past multiple times, but IT DID NOT WORK, as her cycle is very irregular. What are our options besides abstaining? If she were to use birth control, am I culpable?
Usually NFP methods (particularly those that use cervical mucous and temperature) can work if the woman has an irregular cycle, but is necessary to very carefully chart. Speaking to an NFP instructor might also be a good idea.

If she’s nursing full-time, the baby has never had anything other than breastmilk since birth, the baby is under six months old, and she has not started her period yet, her chances of pregnancy are about 1-2%. If any of these things does not apply, she could become fertile soon so she will need to chart carefully again.
 
If she’s breastfeeding, that will produce weirdness with cervical mucus. Breastfeeding is a very difficult time to do NFP. The highly-motivated may wind up with substantial abstinence then.
 
When I stated it did not work, I meant that her cycle was so irregular and different from month to month that charting and predicting was not feasible. We were not using NFP when she got pregnant, just open to whatever happens happens (and it happened :)). Perhaps I should look into an instructor. I am not pressuring her at all to use birth control; I would prefer that she do not for a multitude of reasons.
 
My wife and I just had our first child two months ago. In a few months we may begin resuming sexual activity. My wife is not interested in becoming pregnant again for at least another year (and neither am I really). She is a non-practicing Catholic; I am. We have tried NFP in the past multiple times, but IT DID NOT WORK, as her cycle is very irregular. What are our options besides abstaining? If she were to use birth control, am I culpable?
You have three options.

(1)Allowing conception to occur as it will. (2)Periodic abstinence also known as NFP. (3)Total abstinence.
 
When I stated it did not work, I meant that her cycle was so irregular and different from month to month that charting and predicting was not feasible. We were not using NFP when she got pregnant, just open to whatever happens happens (and it happened :)). Perhaps I should look into an instructor. I am not pressuring her at all to use birth control; I would prefer that she do not for a multitude of reasons.
Modern NFP methods accomodate irregular cycles, so I think yes you should meet an instructor to discuss. Before that, though, you should do some research as there are many different methods available and so it would be good to get an idea of what you would consider before contacting any particular instructors (who will typically each use a specific system). Search posts on this forum, where people have discussed their experiences with different methods, and google more widely to find as much detail as you can.

To be clear, if you wife uses contracption, you have an obligation as a faithful Catholic to not only not encourage/pressure her into doing so, but you must make clear your objection to her using contraception. Only when you objection is clear, and you in no way participate in using the contraception (ie you can’t wear condoms, you can’t go to the drug store to pick up her pills, etc), are you free of culpability.
 
If your wife has a condition like endometriosis or PCOS, regular charting might simply not be feasible. Even the most dedicated NFP-er will admit that there are cases where a woman’s cycle just doesn’t behave. 🙂 If that is the case, I’d talk to your parish priest if you’re concerned as to the morality of birth control, as well as a gynecologist.
 
When I stated it did not work, I meant that her cycle was so irregular and different from month to month that charting and predicting was not feasible. We were not using NFP when she got pregnant, just open to whatever happens happens (and it happened :)). Perhaps I should look into an instructor. I am not pressuring her at all to use birth control; I would prefer that she do not for a multitude of reasons.
NFP is not supposed to be for a perfect cycle–you monitor fertility conditions and adjust behavior accordingly. There are certainly cases (for instance PCOS or perimenopause or breastfeeding amenorrhea) where there can be a lot difficulties, but with normal fertility, you can say, “We’ve had four days of sustained temperature rise, four days of dryness, there’s been no sign of illness, so it’s a go!” and have a fair degree of certainty. You don’t predict, you read and respond to current conditions and you can fine tune your level of abstinence, depending on your motivation.

Have you or your wife read Taking Charge of Your Fertility?

Once your wife gets back her normal fertility, things should be much easier.

Also, you should probably figure out how to involve yourself more in the process if it hasn’t been working for you guys.
 
Modern NFP methods accomodate irregular cycles, so I think yes you should meet an instructor to discuss. Before that, though, you should do some research as there are many different methods available and so it would be good to get an idea of what you would consider before contacting any particular instructors (who will typically each use a specific system). Search posts on this forum, where people have discussed their experiences with different methods, and google more widely to find as much detail as you can.

To be clear, if you wife uses contracption, you have an obligation as a faithful Catholic to not only not encourage/pressure her into doing so, but you must make clear your objection to her using contraception. Only when you objection is clear, and you in no way participate in using the contraception (ie you can’t wear condoms, you can’t go to the drug store to pick up her pills, etc), are you free of culpability.
That’s very good.
 
If your wife has a condition like endometriosis or PCOS, regular charting might simply not be feasible. Even the most dedicated NFP-er will admit that there are cases where a woman’s cycle just doesn’t behave. 🙂 If that is the case, I’d talk to your parish priest if you’re concerned as to the morality of birth control, as well as a gynecologist.
Actually if someone had pcos or endometriosis, Nfp is even absolutely necessary so one can figure out the problem and work on fixing it with a napro doctor.
 
Actually if someone had pcos or endometriosis, Nfp is even absolutely necessary so one can figure out the problem and work on fixing it with a napro doctor.
I mean, it’s important to try and keep tabs on your cycle so you know when something’s up but, from personal experience, with PCOS, any sort of consistent tracking is a shot in the dark. There’s really not much to do but shrugs your shoulders, admit your hormones are wonky, and do what needs to be done to set things in order (for me, that’s hormonal birth control).
 
I mean, it’s important to try and keep tabs on your cycle so you know when something’s up but, from personal experience, with PCOS, any sort of consistent tracking is a shot in the dark. There’s really not much to do but shrugs your shoulders, admit your hormones are wonky, and do what needs to be done to set things in order (for me, that’s hormonal birth control).
And it’s unfortunate that that’s what you are told… All you do is shrug your shoulders? Geez. Get a napro doc. Hormonal birth control does not “set things in order”. It shuts things down, faking it.

I have pcos… And napro docs can help fix at the source.
 
And it’s unfortunate that that’s what you are told… All you do is shrug your shoulders? Geez. Get a napro doc. Hormonal birth control does not “set things in order”. It shuts things down, faking it.

I have pcos… And napro docs can help fix at the source.
Look, I can’t control what increments of hormones my ovaries produce and I have a busy life. It’s not something I feel particular interest or anxiety over. Birth control, for me, regulates my cycle and makes my periods much less painful. I’ve been on it for a few years with almost no side effects and very little risk. I’ve discussed it thoroughly with my gyno and we both believe this is the best way to handle my condition. So yeah, I do “shrug my shoulders” because the issue is solved and I don’t really feel it’s productive to worry about.

I was not “told” anything. I did my research and wasn’t thrilled with the data on alternative methods of treatment. Birth control works well for me and barring unforeseen circumstances, I am not changing it.

OP, I’d ask your wife to talk to her gynecologist! Very irregular cycles are a sign of a problem and a medical doctor has way more info about it than we do. 🙂
 
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ABC is never an option. Several things in your posts raise red flags. Like your seeming uncaring for your wife’s soul should she take on the burden of sin by using ABC. NFP can be used for irregular cycles. It may require some effort but it is worth it.

Seek a priest but remember they cannot change Church teaching. Some may try but that is like finding a checker at a store that will let you have your groceries for free. It does not excuse the theft.

Many on here have been very helpful for you.

Good luck, I know that this is something that is hard for you and your marriage right now. But do yourself a favor and be obedient even when you do not understand, you are busy, or it is hard. It will have an eternal benefit to you.
 
Modern NFP methods accomodate irregular cycles, so I think yes you should meet an instructor to discuss. Before that, though, you should do some research as there are many different methods available and so it would be good to get an idea of what you would consider before contacting any particular instructors (who will typically each use a specific system). Search posts on this forum, where people have discussed their experiences with different methods, and google more widely to find as much detail as you can.

To be clear, if you wife uses contracption, you have an obligation as a faithful Catholic to not only not encourage/pressure her into doing so, but you must make clear your objection to her using contraception. Only when you objection is clear, and you in no way participate in using the contraception (ie you can’t wear condoms, you can’t go to the drug store to pick up her pills, etc), are you free of culpability.
Thank you! I will do some research and pray my wife will be open to trying NFP again.
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Several things in your posts raise red flags. Like your seeming uncaring for your wife’s soul should she take on the burden of sin by using ABC.

Good luck, I know that this is something that is hard for you and your marriage right now. But do yourself a favor and be obedient even when you do not understand, you are busy, or it is hard. It will have an eternal benefit to you.
I very much care for her soul, but I cannot force her to adhere to Church teaching. I will continue to pray our spiritual lives will become more united.
 
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