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Catholics keep citing as an example of forgiveness how Jesus asked the Father to forgive the soldiers mocking him on the cross.
What if Judas joined with the soldiers to mock Jesus at the cross instead of repenting, publically admitting his sins, and trying to return the money? Then wouldn’t Judas have heard Jesus praying that they be forgiven and gained confidence that he also can be forgiven and not committed suicide so that he could be saved?
I.e. Was Judas not saved because he was not more evil?
People have been telling me to forgive those who wronged me and continued to mock me after that without even admitting their sins. But people don’t cite how Judas was not forgiven although he repented, publically admitted his sins, tried to return the money, and felt so grieved and regretful that he wanted to kill himself.
Edit: Thanks for the reply! St. Catherine said Judas was not saved because of his lack of trust in God’s mercy, which made me think why he was so unlucky to never hear Jesus asking God to forgive the mocking soldiers? What if he mocked Jesus with the soldiers? Also Jesus didn’t seem particularly kind to Judas, calling him devil, saying it would have been better for him if he was never born, saying in front of the disciples that Judas would be the betrayer, and telling him to do what he intended to do although Jesus knew that would lead to his doom. I understand it was predestined but it seems a bit unfair?
What if Judas joined with the soldiers to mock Jesus at the cross instead of repenting, publically admitting his sins, and trying to return the money? Then wouldn’t Judas have heard Jesus praying that they be forgiven and gained confidence that he also can be forgiven and not committed suicide so that he could be saved?
I.e. Was Judas not saved because he was not more evil?
People have been telling me to forgive those who wronged me and continued to mock me after that without even admitting their sins. But people don’t cite how Judas was not forgiven although he repented, publically admitted his sins, tried to return the money, and felt so grieved and regretful that he wanted to kill himself.
Edit: Thanks for the reply! St. Catherine said Judas was not saved because of his lack of trust in God’s mercy, which made me think why he was so unlucky to never hear Jesus asking God to forgive the mocking soldiers? What if he mocked Jesus with the soldiers? Also Jesus didn’t seem particularly kind to Judas, calling him devil, saying it would have been better for him if he was never born, saying in front of the disciples that Judas would be the betrayer, and telling him to do what he intended to do although Jesus knew that would lead to his doom. I understand it was predestined but it seems a bit unfair?
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