Dance and song on the apse - cute or ...?

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are we splitting hairs here? So children who are receiving first communion as a group, dressed nicely and specially for this sacrament can’t sing a song? I think sometimes there just is too much obsession with Mass violations and we through out the baby with the bath water. This wasn’t done to be a broadway show, this isn’t a focus on the individual and not the importance of the sacrament, children singing a special song to highlight their first communion as a group. Now really, what is wrong with that?
I am not splitting hairs. You suggested people “re-read” the OP’s post and then proceeded to wrongly suggest it was before the priest had proceeded. I was merely pointing out that it wasn’t me who misread the original post and that it was, indeed, after the procession.
 
I haven’t seen that - but then again I haven’t been to a first commuion in awhile. 😛 My parish is ginormous and we have three special (not regular Sunday) Masses for FHC. I do not think there is room on the apse for even one Mass-ful of communicants.

All that being said, I don’t actaully have a problem with the children singing a song to commemorate their FHC - either right before Mass starts as in the OP, or where the announcments usual go at the end of Mass.
 
are we splitting hairs here? So children who are receiving first communion as a group, dressed nicely and specially for this sacrament can’t sing a song? I think sometimes there just is too much obsession with Mass violations and we through out the baby with the bath water. This wasn’t done to be a broadway show, this isn’t a focus on the individual and not the importance of the sacrament, children singing a special song to highlight their first communion as a group. Now really, what is wrong with that?
Sing a song as a group, great. Sing a song IN FRONT of the altar, no thanks, in my opinion, very inappropriate.
 
This was done at my First Communion in 1991 - a song sang as a group while we were turned around in the front few pews. We weren’t allowed to sit with our families either. I don’t recall enjoying it, and my current parish doesn’t do it and generally opts for first communion done a few at a time at regular Masses. Asking for a performance from a first communicant really makes them miss the point of what is going on.
 
When my wife used to teach vacation bible school they would invite all the children to stand on the apse and sing a song they learned during the week, just before the dismissal. She would kneel in front of them and direct the hand motions etc.

Some will be dissapointed to know it wasn’t a song from a Broadway play or anything, but still, good to hear the kids singing about Jesus.
 
When my wife used to teach vacation bible school they would invite all the children to stand on the apse and sing a song they learned during the week, just before the dismissal. She would kneel in front of them and direct the hand motions etc.

Some will be dissapointed to know it wasn’t a song from a Broadway play or anything, but still, good to hear the kids singing about Jesus.
thank-you, Children singing a song about receiving Jesus in the Eucharist should be seen as a beautiful opportunity and expression of faith and it is sad that it is compared to a “performance” or “broadway show”. Without having seen a video clip of what was sung and the gestures that went with it (sign language?) there is no way anyone can fairly judge what happen based on one person’s view.
 
The sign language sounds lovely. 🙂 That’s not what this was.

Because my parish doesn’t do this I just thought it was a little odd. It didn’t ‘feel’ abusive. Everyone SEEMED to be trying to be respectful… it was just, as I said, a bit odd.

I was also unclear on whether it was before Mass had begun or after. I always understood that Mass begins during the procession.

I am not overly obsessed with doing things to the letter but I wonder sometimes when people treat the apse and the altar almost as an after thought. For me if they had been on the floor of the nave it wouldn’t have even registered as odd but lining up on the apse before the altar was a little odd.

Again, I’m not looking for abuse but it makes me wonder if we haven’t lost our respect for holy things (the altar, and the ground which it stands on).
 
The sign language sounds lovely. 🙂 That’s not what this was.

Because my parish doesn’t do this I just thought it was a little odd. It didn’t ‘feel’ abusive. Everyone SEEMED to be trying to be respectful… it was just, as I said, a bit odd.

I was also unclear on whether it was before Mass had begun or after. I always understood that Mass begins during the procession.

I am not overly obsessed with doing things to the letter but I wonder sometimes when people treat the apse and the altar almost as an after thought. For me if they had been on the floor of the nave it wouldn’t have even registered as odd but lining up on the apse before the altar was a little odd.

Again, I’m not looking for abuse but it makes me wonder if we haven’t lost our respect for holy things (the altar, and the ground which it stands on).
thanks for clarifying!
 
Mass begins with the Entrance Chant which accompanies the Procession.

That said, in recent years our first communicants end Mass with “His Banner Over Me Is Love”, complete with hand gestures, standing in the sanctuary. It annoys me but I’m an old woman who feels that if they can learn kitchy songs they can learn proper hymns.

I have a problem with having the first communicants do ANYTHING that day other than attend Mass and receive Communion. It’s too easy for them to be distracted from the Sacrament because they’re expected to read the First and Second Readings (usually badly and often dividing one reading between kids) & the Intercessions. Then they’re all expected to know this song and remember the gestures.

Let them concentrate on Whom they will be receiving. Sadly, for some of them it will be the last time they receive until they’re preparing for Confirmation, if at all.
 
Mass begins with the Entrance Chant which accompanies the Procession.

That said, in recent years our first communicants end Mass with “His Banner Over Me Is Love”, complete with hand gestures, standing in the sanctuary. It annoys me but I’m an old woman who feels that if they can learn kitchy songs they can learn proper hymns.

I have a problem with having the first communicants do ANYTHING that day other than attend Mass and receive Communion. It’s too easy for them to be distracted from the Sacrament because they’re expected to read the First and Second Readings (usually badly and often dividing one reading between kids) & the Intercessions. Then they’re all expected to know this song and remember the gestures.

Let them concentrate on Whom they will be receiving. Sadly, for some of them it will be the last time they receive until they’re preparing for Confirmation, if at all.
That’s an interesting point of view. I rather like it though. More quiet time to focus on Christ instead of all the extra stress of ‘performing’, as it were.
 
Mass begins with the Entrance Chant which accompanies the Procession.

That said, in recent years our first communicants end Mass with “His Banner Over Me Is Love”, complete with hand gestures, standing in the sanctuary. It annoys me but I’m an old woman who feels that if they can learn kitchy songs they can learn proper hymns.

I have a problem with having the first communicants do ANYTHING that day other than attend Mass and receive Communion. It’s too easy for them to be distracted from the Sacrament because they’re expected to read the First and Second Readings (usually badly and often dividing one reading between kids) & the Intercessions. Then they’re all expected to know this song and remember the gestures.

Let them concentrate on Whom they will be receiving. Sadly, for some of them it will be the last time they receive until they’re preparing for Confirmation, if at all.
As an adult, there is no way for you to judge what may or may not help a child focus or concentrate. Sitting still doesn’t always cut it for some children. Doing songs even with gestures can have the added benefit of helping children focus because it allow them to release nervous energy. Trust me, those children are nervous and full of energy at about what is to happen. I also know that some parishes won’t allow (mostly girls) to have or carry purses or rosaries so they won’t be distracted and fiddling with such items. I am always amazed at the number of posts on CAF from Catholics that seem to become so obsessed with focussing in Mass and the idea that to really focus, one needs to sit there as if in a straight jacket with total absolute silence and if you dare even move a finger, you’re not focussing in Mass. Doing songs may help children remember what this is all about, Doing songs even with gestures or sign language and the practice of that will hopefully stay with them for life and that should be the real focus of it all.
 
As an adult, there is no way for you to judge what may or may not help a child focus or concentrate. Sitting still doesn’t always cut it for some children. Doing songs even with gestures can have the added benefit of helping children focus because it allow them to release nervous energy. Trust me, those children are nervous and full of energy at about what is to happen. I also know that some parishes won’t allow (mostly girls) to have or carry purses or rosaries so they won’t be distracted and fiddling with such items. I am always amazed at the number of posts on CAF from Catholics that seem to become so obsessed with focussing in Mass and the idea that to really focus, one needs to sit there as if in a straight jacket with total absolute silence and if you dare even move a finger, you’re not focussing in Mass. Doing songs may help children remember what this is all about, Doing songs even with gestures or sign language and the practice of that will hopefully stay with them for life and that should be the real focus of it all.
Did I misunderstand? Or did you say the thing that should stay with them the rest of their life is how much fun they had doing their songs and dances?

This may be slightly off topic… but I’ve been a kid. My mother used to take me to Bible study and I would be required to sit quietly. And sure, I hated it… but you know I started to really absorb the things going on around me. At the tender age of 11 I could argue Scripture with the elders in our church. 😛 Course, it drove them crazy but that’s what you get when you make a child sit quietly in on adult bible studies week after week.
 
As an adult, there is no way for you to judge what may or may not help a child focus or concentrate. Sitting still doesn’t always cut it for some children. Doing songs even with gestures can have the added benefit of helping children focus because it allow them to release nervous energy. Trust me, those children are nervous and full of energy at about what is to happen. I also know that some parishes won’t allow (mostly girls) to have or carry purses or rosaries so they won’t be distracted and fiddling with such items. I am always amazed at the number of posts on CAF from Catholics that seem to become so obsessed with focussing in Mass and the idea that to really focus, one needs to sit there as if in a straight jacket with total absolute silence and if you dare even move a finger, you’re not focussing in Mass. Doing songs may help children remember what this is all about, Doing songs even with gestures or sign language and the practice of that will hopefully stay with them for life and that should be the real focus of it all.
Maybe “as an adult” I don’t know, but as a father I have a pretty good idea of when my own children are distracted or not. Typically, when they are seated and paying attention they are less distracted than when they are doing something else. That’s just my kids though. I can’t claim to know all children.
 
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