Dealing with Anger

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How do you find healthy ways to deal with your anger that do not create an outburst against other people in your life, namely, your husband, and/or your kids?

My husband has anger ‘issues’ , and he has previously agreed to go to counseling but right now we are too broke to afford it and he can’t afford to take any time off work. So, we talk about it. We try to respect each others boundaries, and talk constructively, but I feel like I am at a loss. I have been praying daily for him and for me to help him deal with this anger.

A lot of our arguments come about of silly little things - like for example, he put his bathing suits on the floor because he was going to take them up to the attic. I said to him that maybe he should consider leaving one in his dresser (Mind you, this last summer he had only one bathing suit and he lost it so we couldn’t go swimming and had to buy him a new bathing suit). He argued with me that he wouldn’t need it. He ended up exploding about the issue, and I dropped it.

The last huge argument was when I was writing thank you notes and I asked him to write the two that he had to do. He was tired, so he said he would do it in the morning. Unfortunately, that day the one of the people he needed to give the card to, left early due to an illness and the card was not filled out so I could not give him his gift. When his brother (the second person the card was intended for) left the FOLLOWING day, the card was still not filled out. Mind you, I did not mention it to him ONCE either of those two days. He says that I am “harping” him about it. It’s been almost two weeks and he has YET to fill the cards out (I did mention it to him again because now we need to mail the cards!)

Last night, we had another argument. We tried to talk about it, but he got so angry at one point he had to stop talking. I do not know what makes him so angry. He says to me: “It is your tone” and I say, “I am not being negative- I am not calling you names. I am just trying to work this out…” and then he says “When you are too specific it makes me feel like you are ganging up on me with reasons” and I say: “I’m sorry that is not my intention, I just want you to know what the issue is, specifically.”

He seems to think that I am harping on him because he is forgetful - and I told him I do not mind at all that he is forgetful. I lose my brain all the time and get more mad at myself than he gets mad at me! Humans are not meant to be perfect. I think the big thing to me, at least, is owning up to the mistake (of forgeting).

I gave him an analogy of

“A woman asks her husband to bring home a carton of milk. The man forgets the milk and goes home like normal.”

Does he… A. Get angry or B. Apologize and rectify the situation

I told him that I feel like he is the man that gets angry.

I also find that his anger creates anger in me and that I have less patience and willingness… I am sorry this is so long. I am tired of saying one wrong comment and having him fly off the handle and then he stomps around like a wounded hippo. Any advice appreciated.

God bless,

Ashley
 
His first obligation in marriage is to love you, and you him.

So the anger needs to stop.

Does he feel remorse after all the forgetfulness?

Would he work better with a “to do” list written in the fridge or a small erasable board? You could put a date due by each task, put tasks for you or others there too.
 
My wife and I are similar.

If he is like me, he has hundreds of things on his mind; his job, the family finances, perhaps his health, etc. Something like filling out a Thank You card or picking up milk on the way home from work may simply not be a priority to him, or he has so many things on his mind that he simply forgets. If it is not important to me, then it is not important.

I told my wife (and she knows this) that I have a lot of stress in my life and the last thing I need is for her to add to it. My wife and I have been married for 27 years and by now she should know what pushes my buttons. I told her flat out: “Don’t pi$$ me off and I won’t get mad. It’s that simple.”

Also, has he ever been treated for, or does he show the symptoms of clinical depression?
 
He’s not responding to you, but likely his mother (could also be his father). You’re just the stand-in. Call Catholic Charities - they won’t ask you for payment if you can’t pay. It’s important to MAKE time for counseling, because no matter what you do, this isn’t going to get better since he doesn’t recognize where it’s coming from. Try not to walk on eggshells (I know it is hard not to with someone who blows up for no good reason), try to keep a calm response, and GET COUNSELING.
 
He’s not responding to you, but likely his mother (could also be his father). You’re just the stand-in. Call Catholic Charities - they won’t ask you for payment if you can’t pay. It’s important to MAKE time for counseling, because no matter what you do, **this isn’t going to get better since he doesn’t recognize where it’s coming from. ** Try not to walk on eggshells (I know it is hard not to with someone who blows up for no good reason), try to keep a calm response, and GET COUNSELING.
Yes, this (the whole thing, not just what I bolded).
 
How do you find healthy ways to deal with your anger that do not create an outburst against other people in your life, namely, your husband, and/or your kids?
When I finally get this under control…I’ll let you know…:blushing:

Something I note here is that you are asking how I deal with my anger…but then what you are talking about below is the anger of someone else.
While it might be good to try to come up with suggestions for your husband to deal with things, it is equally important for you to recognize some issues of your own…
My husband has anger ‘issues’ , and he has previously agreed to go to counseling but right now we are too broke to afford it and he can’t afford to take any time off work. So, we talk about it. We try to respect each others boundaries, and talk constructively, but I feel like I am at a loss. I have been praying daily for him and for me to help him deal with this anger.
Does your husband pray? This could be something you could do together…and may prove very helpful…
A lot of our arguments come about of silly little things - like for example, he put his bathing suits on the floor because he was going to take them up to the attic. I said to him that maybe he should consider leaving one in his dresser (Mind you, this last summer he had only one bathing suit and he lost it so we couldn’t go swimming and had to buy him a new bathing suit). He argued with me that he wouldn’t need it. He ended up exploding about the issue, and I dropped it.
I agree this is a silly argument. So let me ask…Why did it get to the point of his exploding? Sure - you had a point about possibly needing to leave a suit down for next year…but was it worth arguing over in the first place? After all, whether he put the suit in the attic or in his drawer…you will still know where it is and can retrieve it at the proper time…
The last huge argument was when I was writing thank you notes and I asked him to write the two that he had to do. He was tired, so he said he would do it in the morning. Unfortunately, that day the one of the people he needed to give the card to, left early due to an illness and the card was not filled out so I could not give him his gift. When his brother (the second person the card was intended for) left the FOLLOWING day, the card was still not filled out. Mind you, I did not mention it to him ONCE either of those two days. He says that I am “harping” him about it. It’s been almost two weeks and he has YET to fill the cards out (I did mention it to him again because now we need to mail the cards!)
So - fill the cards out yourself and let it drop…again…This is not worth the trouble
Why do you insist that he should do this?
Last night, we had another argument. We tried to talk about it, but he got so angry at one point he had to stop talking. I do not know what makes him so angry. He says to me: “It is your tone” and I say, “I am not being negative- I am not calling you names. I am just trying to work this out…” and then he says “When you are too specific it makes me feel like you are ganging up on me with reasons” and I say: “I’m sorry that is not my intention, I just want you to know what the issue is, specifically.”
I have been through these types of arguments - far too many times. Believe me it is not worth it. Let it drop.
He seems to think that I am harping on him because he is forgetful - and I told him I do not mind at all that he is forgetful. I lose my brain all the time and get more mad at myself than he gets mad at me! Humans are not meant to be perfect. I think the big thing to me, at least, is owning up to the mistake (of forgeting).
I gave him an analogy of
“A woman asks her husband to bring home a carton of milk. The man forgets the milk and goes home like normal.”
Does he… A. Get angry or B. Apologize and rectify the situation
I told him that I feel like he is the man that gets angry.
I also find that his anger creates anger in me and that I have less patience and willingness… I am sorry this is so long. I am tired of saying one wrong comment and having him fly off the handle and then he stomps around like a wounded hippo. Any advice appreciated.
God bless,
All of this…the entire post…suggests that there is much more going on here than simply your husband’s anger. I hope that the BOTH of you will be able to get some counseling as a couple so that you can discover what it is in each of you that is driving this problem.

Peace
James
 
. If it is not important to me, then it is not important.
:eek:

Wow ! Shouldn’t a husband not care about what is important to his wife ?
. My wife and I have been married for 27 years and by now she should know what pushes my buttons. I told her flat out: “Don’t pi$$ me off and I won’t get mad. It’s that simple.”
After 27 years shouldn’t you know what is important to her and develpped better communication skills? Your wife can’t read your mind
 
OP, I can TOTALLY relate to the frustration of someone saying they will do something, not do it and then you are inconvenienced and have to clean up the mess.

However, if the thank you cards are for HIS brother, I do not know how this became your responsibility. If he does want to send a thank you card, I would let it go.

And also, I agree that it is silly to argue over where to put a bathing suit. However, I think from where your husband is coming from, it is not the bathing suit it is the principle. I have had people in my life who have monitored my every move and it drove me NUTS!. For example, I had a friend who would come over and notice every little detail of my appartment. I could not do so little as put a new magnet on my fridge without her noticing and asking about it. I felt like my every move was being scrutinized and I was constantly monitored under a microscope. Every time she would notice something different I felt like screem ‘Air, air I am gasping for air I am so suffocated’.

I think your husband wants some space. I think he feels at some point he should be able to (for lack of a better expression) ‘come and go as he pleases’. He probably wants to be able to put his bathing suits away without always having the responsibiliy of planning and having to answer for where he puts them. He sounds like he is crying for freedom.

Now I still agree with the posters that say he is reacting to his mother and needs to look at that. But I also think there are ways you can tweak your approach. Instead of saying ‘please write the thank you notes, so I can mail them’, perhaps a ‘I know you are busy but I really would appreciate your support. If you fill out the thank you cards shortly it will enable me to mail them tomorrow and get it off my plate. It makes me feel special when you help me out’ Or something else that makes your husband feel like he is the solution, not the problem

CM
 
I wrote a response yesterday but my computer froze on me, and I lost the response…

I don’t try and monitor his every move - but I am particularly against anything that adds any work on thought on his or my part. More thought means more likely to forget – and which means more likely for things to go awry. If we had a box in the attic where we kept out of season clothes, for example, or we hadn’t just moved and everything was in a transition-mess, it wouldn’t be such a big deal.

The next day, he did realize that he was being a bit silly insisting that the bathing suit go in the attic all by itself. I think he realized we’d never find it. We have two kids, who are just a force of natural destruction.

I shouldn’t have to say “please write the cards, so I can mail them” when he was supposed to write them almost two weeks ago! I mean, when I asked him almost three weeks ago I asked him with “please” but since then I have not said anything. Of course, he still has not written the cards… but it’s on his to-do list for tomorrow.

It’s impossible to get space. Or any time to relax. We have two kids. Loads of other problems. So that’s not an option. Unfortunately, we’ll probably be on burn-out mode until I graduate in Dec, and then we’re hoping to do a vacation in January…

The nearest Catholic Charities is 45 min away, and with all our car problems, and his schedule at work, there’s no way it’d work out. We don’t even know his schedule yet for his new job, and he is still trying to work his second job…

I guess the key to dealing with anger is living in suburbia where you can spread out and ignore issues? 🤷
 
My wife and I are similar.

If he is like me, he has hundreds of things on his mind; his job, the family finances, perhaps his health, etc. Something like filling out a Thank You card or picking up milk on the way home from work may simply not be a priority to him, or he has so many things on his mind that he simply forgets. If it is not important to me, then it is not important.

I told my wife (and she knows this) that I have a lot of stress in my life and the last thing I need is for her to add to it. My wife and I have been married for 27 years and by now she should know what pushes my buttons. I told her flat out: "Don’t pi$$ me off and I won’t get mad. It’s that simple."

Also, has he ever been treated for, or does he show the symptoms of clinical depression?
Although I can understand where you are coming from (her not adding stress), the fact that you said this to your wife, well, rather stinks. You may be married for 27 years but I have to wonder how your wife really feels about that exchange. She needs to respect your needs, but that comment was absolutely disrepectful and unloving.

OP, I think the reason why he is coming out with so much anger is because you are on him for every little thing. Pick your battles. Let go of the small stuff. If you ask him to write out a thank you note to his brother and it doesn’t get done, well then it doesn’t get done. If he knows that you will do it anyway, why would he do it? I think to some extent you are acting like his mother, not his wife.
 
I wrote a response yesterday but my computer froze on me, and I lost the response…

I don’t try and monitor his every move - but I am particularly against anything that adds any work on thought on his or my part. More thought means more likely to forget – and which means more likely for things to go awry. If we had a box in the attic where we kept out of season clothes, for example, or we hadn’t just moved and everything was in a transition-mess, it wouldn’t be such a big deal.

The next day, he did realize that he was being a bit silly insisting that the bathing suit go in the attic all by itself. I think he realized we’d never find it. We have two kids, who are just a force of natural destruction.

I shouldn’t have to say “please write the cards, so I can mail them” when he was supposed to write them almost two weeks ago! I mean, when I asked him almost three weeks ago I asked him with “please” but since then I have not said anything. Of course, he still has not written the cards… but it’s on his to-do list for tomorrow.

It’s impossible to get space. Or any time to relax. We have two kids. Loads of other problems. So that’s not an option. Unfortunately, we’ll probably be on burn-out mode until I graduate in Dec, and then we’re hoping to do a vacation in January…

The nearest Catholic Charities is 45 min away, and with all our car problems, and his schedule at work, there’s no way it’d work out. We don’t even know his schedule yet for his new job, and he is still trying to work his second job…

I guess the key to dealing with anger is living in suburbia where you can spread out and ignore issues? 🤷
Thanks for sharing a more full picture of the situation. It really helps to put things into a fuller perspective.

It is obvious that both you and he are under a lot of stress right now. You nail it when you say that you are both in “burn out mode” and likely will be until December. Recognizing that you are both in this “mode” should do a lot to help. Not so much “in the moment” as you are both fragile and little things that you would each normally just blow off can flare up unexpectedly…but it’s not the issue itself…It’s the stress…his stress…your stress…combined, very volatile.
But it is good that there is an end in sight - some relief, some celebration and hopefully a much needed vacation.

For now - I wonder - if you and your husband could find 20 minutes each day to say the rosary together - maybe this would help. Also - it would probably be a good idea for you both to get to confession. Even if you have not committed any “mortal sins”, there appears to be a lot of negatives and small sins building up and confessing these things can allow them to dissipate - plus perhaps your confessor can offer additional insights into dealing with each other.

Oh - and by the way…
Living "in suburbia’ is no protection against these things…I know that from personal experience…:slapfight:…😉
:whistle:

Peace
James
 
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