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AlanFromWichita
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Dear all,
I first heard of passive prayer, Lectio Divina, then centering prayer, and finally Thomas Keating, O.S.C.O. when I started going to a very old and wise spiritual director, a Remptorist priest who was confessor to most of the priests in our diocese.
Since then I have benefitted greatly from the teachings and practices of Keating and others, as have many others including priests and nuns.
Several people on this forum have made the assertion that somehow Keating and/or centering prayer is “new age,” but when I questioned them for specifics they did not produce any examples of how either is “new age” or otherwise non-Catholic beyond vague innuendos or hearsay. The closest anyone came so far to explain it is that there are “better” methods of prayer. Perhaps there is something to all this, but I haven’t heard it yet.
Anyway, all you with an opinion of Keating and/or centering prayer, please let’s hear it, and I’m begging you to be as specific as possible. If I find out there is something legitimately scary, you can trust I will be the first to take it back to Contemplative Outreach, the organization Keating helped to found, through its Kansas representative whom I met through centering prayer meetings and now consider a friend of mine. You can also trust that if there are rampant misconceptions out there, I will also let them know in case they may better address them.
I am NOT saying centering prayer is for everyone; any more than I’d say everyone should say the rosary daily or the Liturgy of the Hours. I do claim there are tremendous benefits, and what I’ve learned about New Age practices and the problems attached thereto simply don’t apply to centering prayer, lectio divina, or any legitimate contemplative prayer in general.
Personal questions directed toward me are totally welcome, such as questions about my faith life, my motives in defending CP and my personal opinions, personal history (to some extent) etc. Again, be as specific as possible so that I know what you are asking. I am willing to stake my own credibility on this, and if I find out I’m wrong I’ll be the first to thank those who have corrected me. Personal opinions and “feelings” are also welcome, as I am aware some people have objections that they just can’t back up.
Some references to get us started:
For information about the New Age movement, here is a wonderful 50+ page article on the Vatican web site, (thanks to YinYangMom for finding it):
vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/interelg/documents/rc_pc_interelg_doc_20030203_new-age_en.html
For information about Fr. Keating, Contemplative Outreach, centering prayer and Lectio Divina, see CO’s website:
contemplativeoutreach.org/
Alan
I first heard of passive prayer, Lectio Divina, then centering prayer, and finally Thomas Keating, O.S.C.O. when I started going to a very old and wise spiritual director, a Remptorist priest who was confessor to most of the priests in our diocese.
Since then I have benefitted greatly from the teachings and practices of Keating and others, as have many others including priests and nuns.
Several people on this forum have made the assertion that somehow Keating and/or centering prayer is “new age,” but when I questioned them for specifics they did not produce any examples of how either is “new age” or otherwise non-Catholic beyond vague innuendos or hearsay. The closest anyone came so far to explain it is that there are “better” methods of prayer. Perhaps there is something to all this, but I haven’t heard it yet.
Anyway, all you with an opinion of Keating and/or centering prayer, please let’s hear it, and I’m begging you to be as specific as possible. If I find out there is something legitimately scary, you can trust I will be the first to take it back to Contemplative Outreach, the organization Keating helped to found, through its Kansas representative whom I met through centering prayer meetings and now consider a friend of mine. You can also trust that if there are rampant misconceptions out there, I will also let them know in case they may better address them.
I am NOT saying centering prayer is for everyone; any more than I’d say everyone should say the rosary daily or the Liturgy of the Hours. I do claim there are tremendous benefits, and what I’ve learned about New Age practices and the problems attached thereto simply don’t apply to centering prayer, lectio divina, or any legitimate contemplative prayer in general.
Personal questions directed toward me are totally welcome, such as questions about my faith life, my motives in defending CP and my personal opinions, personal history (to some extent) etc. Again, be as specific as possible so that I know what you are asking. I am willing to stake my own credibility on this, and if I find out I’m wrong I’ll be the first to thank those who have corrected me. Personal opinions and “feelings” are also welcome, as I am aware some people have objections that they just can’t back up.
Some references to get us started:
For information about the New Age movement, here is a wonderful 50+ page article on the Vatican web site, (thanks to YinYangMom for finding it):
vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/interelg/documents/rc_pc_interelg_doc_20030203_new-age_en.html
For information about Fr. Keating, Contemplative Outreach, centering prayer and Lectio Divina, see CO’s website:
contemplativeoutreach.org/
Alan