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I found this and wanted to make it available for discussion it would seem that the word we use for church as defined and found in the NT hold a much deeper meaning in the original Greek, where ever we find “church” in scripture it is never kurakon that we find in the original Greek. No! the New Testament writers chose ekklesia because it clearly defines those called out of the world to assemble in Christ. Those that are called out, not those that go into a church and become a member by our modern definition. The members are those that are called as Jesus described, drawn by the Father.
I had to cut it up full definition here aotfb.com/ekklesia/church.html
YEAR VARIOUS FORMS OF THE WORD
1600 church becomes common spelling during long process of standardization.
1500 church, churche, chirch, chirche, chyrch, chyrche, cherche
1400 churche, chirch, chirche, chyrch, chyrche, cherch, cherche
(Greek)
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth Edition. 2000.
Church
ETYMOLOGY:
Middle English chirche, from Old English cirice, ultimately from Medieval Greek kurikon, from Late Greek
kuriakon (duma), the Lord’s house, neuter of Greek kuriakos, of the lord, from kurios, lord.
Webster’s Dictionary, 1828
“Church,” n. Sax. Circe, circ or cyric; Scots, kirk, which retains the Saxon pronunciation; D. Kerk; G.
Kirche; Se. Kyrchia; Dan. Kirke; Gr. Kuriokon, a temple of God, from kuriakos, pertaining to a Lord, or to
our Lord Jesus Christ, from kurios, a Lord;
Encyclopedia Britannica, 1911
CHURCH (according to most authorities derived from the Gr. kuriakon , “the Lord’s ,” and common to
many Teutonic, Slavonic and other languages under various forms— Scottish k-irk, Ger. Kirche, Swed. k-
irka, Dan. kirke, Russ. tserkov, Buig. cerkova, Czech cirkev, Finn. kirkko, &c.), a word originally applied to
the building used for Christian worship, and subsequently extended to the Christian community (ecclesia)
itself. Similarly the Greek word ecclesia, “assembly,” was very early transferred from the community to the
building, and is used in both senses, especially in the modern Romance and Celtic languages
Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary
Main Entry: Church
Pronunciation: 'ch&rch
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English chirche, from Old English cirice, ultimately from Late Greek kuriakon, from
Greek, neuter of kuriakos of the lord, from kurios lord, master; akin to Sanskrit sura hero, warrior
Date: before 12th century
I am writing so that you may know how you should conduct yourself in the house of God, which is the
church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth. 1 Tim 3:15
When you read this verse it is obvious that the church is the house of God, ie. the church building. And
when you consider the history of the word it is just as obvious, that it is no accident this is the meaning
being conveyed. It can not be stressed to strongly that where ever we find “church” in scripture it is never
kurakon that we find in the original Greek. No! the New Testament writers chose ekklesia because it
clearly defines those called out of the world to assemble in Christ.
To show that the Greek ekklesia should be translated “assembly” or “congregation” consider the following
examples of evidence. The first is from the William Tyndale translation of 1525. Tyndale labored to give
the people the word of God in their own language that was free from the institutional bias of his day. He
was the first to bypass the the authoritive Latin translation and translated his English NT directly from the
original Greek. And for his labor of love to the people he was burned at the stake.
William Tyndale Translation.
“thou mayst yet have knowledge how thou oughtest to behave thy silfe in the house of God which is the
congregacion of the livinge God the pillar and grounde of trueth.” I Tim 3:15
The Greek interlinear. 1577
oíkoo Theoú anastréfesthai heétis estín ekkleesía Theoú
the house of God, to behave t hyself which is the assembly God,
Strongs # 1577-- ekklesia
From a compound of # 1537- ek (out) and a derivative of # 2564- kaleo (to call) = ekklesia
A gathering of citizens called out from their homes into some public place, an assembly.
a) an assembly of the people convened at the public place for the purpose of deliberating.
b) the assembly of the Israelites
c) any gathering or throng of men assembled by chance, tumultuously
d) in a Christian sense:
affairs, according to regulations prescribed for the body for order’s sake.
Thats the fullness of the NT. If nothing else perhaps you will have a broader meaning when you see the word church used in scripture. It is used so often I thought I would check the origin and meaning. God Bless.John 6:43 Jesus therefore answered and said to them, “Do not murmur among yourselves. 44 No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day. 45 It is written in the prophets, ‘And they shall all be taught by God.
I had to cut it up full definition here aotfb.com/ekklesia/church.html
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THE HISTORY OF THE WORD "CHURCH".
1600 church becomes common spelling during long process of standardization.
1500 church, churche, chirch, chirche, chyrch, chyrche, cherche
1400 churche, chirch, chirche, chyrch, chyrche, cherch, cherche
(Greek)
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth Edition. 2000.
Church
ETYMOLOGY:
Middle English chirche, from Old English cirice, ultimately from Medieval Greek kurikon, from Late Greek
kuriakon (duma), the Lord’s house, neuter of Greek kuriakos, of the lord, from kurios, lord.
Webster’s Dictionary, 1828
“Church,” n. Sax. Circe, circ or cyric; Scots, kirk, which retains the Saxon pronunciation; D. Kerk; G.
Kirche; Se. Kyrchia; Dan. Kirke; Gr. Kuriokon, a temple of God, from kuriakos, pertaining to a Lord, or to
our Lord Jesus Christ, from kurios, a Lord;
Encyclopedia Britannica, 1911
CHURCH (according to most authorities derived from the Gr. kuriakon , “the Lord’s ,” and common to
many Teutonic, Slavonic and other languages under various forms— Scottish k-irk, Ger. Kirche, Swed. k-
irka, Dan. kirke, Russ. tserkov, Buig. cerkova, Czech cirkev, Finn. kirkko, &c.), a word originally applied to
the building used for Christian worship, and subsequently extended to the Christian community (ecclesia)
itself. Similarly the Greek word ecclesia, “assembly,” was very early transferred from the community to the
building, and is used in both senses, especially in the modern Romance and Celtic languages
Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary
Main Entry: Church
Pronunciation: 'ch&rch
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English chirche, from Old English cirice, ultimately from Late Greek kuriakon, from
Greek, neuter of kuriakos of the lord, from kurios lord, master; akin to Sanskrit sura hero, warrior
Date: before 12th century
I am writing so that you may know how you should conduct yourself in the house of God, which is the
church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth. 1 Tim 3:15
When you read this verse it is obvious that the church is the house of God, ie. the church building. And
when you consider the history of the word it is just as obvious, that it is no accident this is the meaning
being conveyed. It can not be stressed to strongly that where ever we find “church” in scripture it is never
kurakon that we find in the original Greek. No! the New Testament writers chose ekklesia because it
clearly defines those called out of the world to assemble in Christ.
To show that the Greek ekklesia should be translated “assembly” or “congregation” consider the following
examples of evidence. The first is from the William Tyndale translation of 1525. Tyndale labored to give
the people the word of God in their own language that was free from the institutional bias of his day. He
was the first to bypass the the authoritive Latin translation and translated his English NT directly from the
original Greek. And for his labor of love to the people he was burned at the stake.
William Tyndale Translation.
“thou mayst yet have knowledge how thou oughtest to behave thy silfe in the house of God which is the
congregacion of the livinge God the pillar and grounde of trueth.” I Tim 3:15
The Greek interlinear. 1577
oíkoo Theoú anastréfesthai heétis estín ekkleesía Theoú
the house of God, to behave t hyself which is the assembly God,
Strongs # 1577-- ekklesia
From a compound of # 1537- ek (out) and a derivative of # 2564- kaleo (to call) = ekklesia
A gathering of citizens called out from their homes into some public place, an assembly.
a) an assembly of the people convened at the public place for the purpose of deliberating.
b) the assembly of the Israelites
c) any gathering or throng of men assembled by chance, tumultuously
d) in a Christian sense:
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an assembly of Christians gathered for worship in a religious meeting. -
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a company of Christian, or of those who, hoping for eternal salvation through Jesus Christ, to
affairs, according to regulations prescribed for the body for order’s sake.