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As I recall, the definition of the immaculate conception came about around 1854? Outside the catholic church there was a controvesry brewing over the human nature of Christ. In fact, the Irvinites taught that Jesus had a sin nature or was born with original sin, and thus got such from Mary ( see book list for proof of such ).
Now, here is my questions, was there such a controversy brewing within the Catholic Church and who was behind it? How widespread was this controversy outside the Catholic Church? Were the Irvinites the only one’s who taught this?
Note: the Christadelphians teach that Jesus had a sin nature or original sin, and they came into being in the 1860’s.
Today, Catholic Theologian Thomas G. Weinandy, O.F.M.Cap in his book In the Likeness of Sinful Flesh: An Essay on the Humanity of Christ, 1993, (ISBN 0-567-09643-2) teaches that Jesus had a sin nature, pages 70-91. So, this in not a dead subject.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Weinandy
The purpose of this thread is to identifly, whom within or without the Catholic Church in the 1800’s taught that Jesus had a sin nature or was subject to the stain of original sin.
Book list,
The Orthodox and Catholic doctrine of our Lord’s human nature
set forth in four parts … Author: Irving, Edward, 1792-1834. Publication: London : Baldwin and Cradock, 1830
The true nature of Christ’s person and atonement :
stated in reply to the unscriptural views of the Rev. Edward Irving “On the human nature of Christ” Author: Urwick, William. Publication: Dublin : William Curry ; London : Hurst, Chance, and Co., 1831
The true nature of our Lord’s humanity and atonement :
stated in reply to the misrepresentations and unscriptural views of the Rev. H.T. Burne, on “the scripture doctrine of the person and humanity of our divine redeemer” &c. Author: Meek, R. Publication: London : J. Hatchard, 1833
The sinless humanity of Christ, vindicated against the Irving heresy : in a letter to a clerical friend / Author: Meek, R. Publication: London : J. Hatchard, 1833
Nineteenth century British Christological controversy, centring upon Edward Irving’s doctrine of Christ’s human nature.
Author: Dorries, D. W. Publication: University of Aberdeen, 1987
Brief remarks on the mistatements, &c. in the last pamphlet of the Rev. R. Meek, on “The true nature of our Lord’s humanity,” &c. / Author: Burne, Henry Thomas, 1799-1865.; Noyes, James,
Publication: London: : A. Douglas, … Hatchard and Son, … Lindsey[sic.] and Co., Edinburgh; Binns, Bath; Noyes, Chippenham., 1833
Nineteenth century British christological controversy centering upon Edward Irving’s doctrine of Christ’s human nature
Author: Dorries, David William. Publication: 1987
Animadversions on that Pestilant Heresy, the Sinfulness of the Human Nature of the Lord Jesus Christ :
as promulgated by the Rev. Edward Irving … With notes.
Author: Colyer, W. H. Publication: London : Westley & Davis, 1830
Basically, in the past doctrine was defined in response to a controversy or hearsay, like the Trinity to respond to Arius. I am curious as to whom definition immaculate conception responded to.
Now, here is my questions, was there such a controversy brewing within the Catholic Church and who was behind it? How widespread was this controversy outside the Catholic Church? Were the Irvinites the only one’s who taught this?
Note: the Christadelphians teach that Jesus had a sin nature or original sin, and they came into being in the 1860’s.
Today, Catholic Theologian Thomas G. Weinandy, O.F.M.Cap in his book In the Likeness of Sinful Flesh: An Essay on the Humanity of Christ, 1993, (ISBN 0-567-09643-2) teaches that Jesus had a sin nature, pages 70-91. So, this in not a dead subject.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Weinandy
The purpose of this thread is to identifly, whom within or without the Catholic Church in the 1800’s taught that Jesus had a sin nature or was subject to the stain of original sin.
Book list,
The Orthodox and Catholic doctrine of our Lord’s human nature
set forth in four parts … Author: Irving, Edward, 1792-1834. Publication: London : Baldwin and Cradock, 1830
The true nature of Christ’s person and atonement :
stated in reply to the unscriptural views of the Rev. Edward Irving “On the human nature of Christ” Author: Urwick, William. Publication: Dublin : William Curry ; London : Hurst, Chance, and Co., 1831
The true nature of our Lord’s humanity and atonement :
stated in reply to the misrepresentations and unscriptural views of the Rev. H.T. Burne, on “the scripture doctrine of the person and humanity of our divine redeemer” &c. Author: Meek, R. Publication: London : J. Hatchard, 1833
The sinless humanity of Christ, vindicated against the Irving heresy : in a letter to a clerical friend / Author: Meek, R. Publication: London : J. Hatchard, 1833
Nineteenth century British Christological controversy, centring upon Edward Irving’s doctrine of Christ’s human nature.
Author: Dorries, D. W. Publication: University of Aberdeen, 1987
Brief remarks on the mistatements, &c. in the last pamphlet of the Rev. R. Meek, on “The true nature of our Lord’s humanity,” &c. / Author: Burne, Henry Thomas, 1799-1865.; Noyes, James,
Publication: London: : A. Douglas, … Hatchard and Son, … Lindsey[sic.] and Co., Edinburgh; Binns, Bath; Noyes, Chippenham., 1833
Nineteenth century British christological controversy centering upon Edward Irving’s doctrine of Christ’s human nature
Author: Dorries, David William. Publication: 1987
Animadversions on that Pestilant Heresy, the Sinfulness of the Human Nature of the Lord Jesus Christ :
as promulgated by the Rev. Edward Irving … With notes.
Author: Colyer, W. H. Publication: London : Westley & Davis, 1830
Basically, in the past doctrine was defined in response to a controversy or hearsay, like the Trinity to respond to Arius. I am curious as to whom definition immaculate conception responded to.
