Demonic Possessions

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**Mark 1: 34, 39 **[Jesus] “And he healed many who were sick with various diseases, and cast out many demons; and he would not permit the demons to speak, because they knew him. And he went throughout all Galilee, preaching in their synagogues and casting out demons.”

**Do they still happen in current times?

If so; to a greater or lesser degree? Why?**
 
YES they still happen in current times. I can’t attest to whether it is more or less than throughout all of history, but it would be foolish to think the Devil has simply gone away. He has not. In our creed, we acknowledge our belief on the things visible and the things invisible to us. In all of this physical space, God has filled the earth with creation: bugs and critters and animals and people and plants and organisms and micro-organisms. With a God that has manifested his creativity and creation in so many visible physical ways, I simply can’t believe he stopped with what we can see. I believe we are surrounded by the invisible at all times; The Holy Spirit, angels and demons are all around us. And I absolutely believe they can and will interact with us as we allow. Demonic possession is very real. Thankfully, so is the grace of the Holy Spirit.

Please note: I am not saying or implying that you yourself are foolish. I know you are asking the question to promote discussion. 🙂
 
I’m no expert on this but I am aware that possessions still happen a lot, the Church seems to be busy in performing exorcisms. I think the Vatican complimented the movie called The Rite, which is based on a true story. And the movie portrayed the Church as being alarmed about the growing number of demonic possessions.

I saw an interview a few years ago on EWTN of a priest who does exorcisms and it was quite an eye opener. I highly recommend doing some research on the topic and watch some trustworthy Catholic interviews on it.
 
The Church speaks very little about to cut down on the sensationalism that tends to surround the subject. The statistics I am familiar with are that during the 1970’s the Roman Catholic church performed approximately 100 minor exorcisms per year in the US and 10 or so major exorcisms. From what I have been told the number and severity of exorcisms has been steadily increasing.

A minor exorcism is one in which one priest and an assistant or two can resolve it within a day or so and no lives are in danger.
A major exorcism involves multiple priests and the possessed is violent enough to threaten the lives of all involved. These are occasionally performed in Religious hospitals.

To repeat, the Church has little or nothing to say about this subject mainly due to the idiocy of the general public. Exorcism is not a spectator sport.
 
The interview with Fr. Gary Thomas (on whom the movie The Rite is loosely based, and on whom the book is based) that you see advertised on the top of this page frequently, has him talking about exorcists called for in each diocese. And in the U.S. it is still an arena needing improvement, I’d say.
 
=MarcoPolo;10249036]The interview with Fr. Gary Thomas (on whom the movie The Rite is loosely based, and on whom the book is based) that you see advertised on the top of this page frequently, has him talking about exorcists called for in each diocese. And in the U.S. it is still an arena needing improvement, I’d say.
Good info all of you.

What’s “driving this?”🤷
 
From what I understand, the church actually notices a rise in activity in this area: Possessions, occult practices etc. They have actually opened a class in Rome teaching more exorsists.
 
Yes, this still happens, even in other countries. I know someone from the Philippines involved in the “deliverance ministry,” handling such exorcisms. According to their head priest, cases are on the rise. Involvement in occult practices is one reason. Another reason perhaps is that more and more people don’t practice their faith. Being in the state of grace protects one from diabolical attacks (there are rare exceptions, of course, like the case of Anneliese Michel, the person portrayed in the Emily Rose movie).
 
Yea,

What’s the “FORCE”?
The rise in paganism, which includes (but is not limited to) belief in pre-Christian and post-Christian worship, probably has a lot to do with it. Playing with non-Christian practices such as divination, mediumship, ouija boards, new age cults, etc., holds a lot of dangers, I think.

The old pre-Vatican II Baptism rite included a minor exorcism. This originated, I’m told, in the early Church, when converts from pagan religions were presumed to be at risk of having lingering demonic links. The early Church fathers believed (as did the Jews) that the pagan religions were “false” not in that the deities they worshipped did not exist, but that they worshipped demons - unclean spirits - who masqueraded as shining pagan gods and drew their followers into sinful practices and perdition. It was felt that such fallen angels would not easily give up their hold on those who had worshipped them, so the Baptism rite included a forceful cleansing of such demonic presences from the individual:

This was in Part III of the old Baptismal rite, which was conducted in the Nave. (I was baptized this way, back in 1958) :

Priest: I exorcise thee, every unclean spirit, in the name of God the Father + Almighty, in the name of Jesus + Christ, His Son, our Lord and Judge, and in the power of the Holy + Spirit, that thou be depart from this creature of God N, which our Lord hath deigned to call unto His holy temple, that it may be made the temple of the living God, and that the Holy Spirit may dwell therein. Through the same Christ our Lord, who shall come to judge the living and the dead, and the world by fire. (Priest: Exorcizo te, omnis spiritus immunde, in nomine Dei + Patris omnipotentis, et in nomine Iesu + Christi Filii eius, Domini et Iudicis nostri, et in virtute Spiritus + Sancti, ut discedas ab hoc plasmate Dei N, quod Dominus noster ad templum sanctum suum vocare dignatus est, ut fiat templum Dei vivi, et Spiritus Sanctus habitet in eo. Per eundum Christum Dominum nostrum, qui venturus est iudicare vivos et mortuos, et saeculum per ignem.)

Adults or Godparents of a child were then asked:

Priest: N., do you renounce Satan?
Priest: N., abrenuntias Satanæ?
Sponsor/Catechumen: I do renounce him.
Sponsor/Catechumen: Abrenuntio.
Priest: And all of his works?
Priest: Et omnibus operibus eius?
Sponsor/Catechumen: I do renounce him.
Sponsor/Catechumen: Abrenuntio.
Priest: And all his pomps?
Priest: Et omnibus pompis eius?
Sponsor/Catechumen: I do renounce him.
  • Sponsor/Catechumen: Abrenuntio.*
I’ve heard that parents can still request that rite, but I’m not sure. An adult entering the Catholic faith who has not been previously baptized in a Christian rite, and who has been involved in pagan or neo-pagan practices, would probably benefit from such an older rite of baptism, if his priest felt it was appropriate and was willing to perform it. Just my personal opinion on that.

As far as the “Force” involved, I would say it is that of our Enemy.

Why it is more common? My personal opinion is that paganism is becoming the dominant force in the world, masquerading under the new cover of secularism. The key feature of paganism in the ancient world is that it was inextricably linked with worship of the state, as each country, region, city, and locality had its own (false) gods, who demanded appeasement and worship through acts such as sacrifice of the young and immoral sexual practices. Support of the demonic entities by worshippers also supported the rulers, who were also often awarded the status of gods themselves, and worthy of worship. The concepts of the proper delineation of authority between man and God was unknown in the world (and would have been considered both blasphemous and treasonous) until Christ introduced the idea. The worship of the state, and the idea that the state (or the individual’s moral compass) is the sole moral authority, is becoming much more common and is the new paradigm by which many people view the basis of morality, so why should we be surprised that the rebirth of paganism is accompanied by an increase in such phenomena?
 
Books & Movies like Harry Potter which glorify witches & worlocks, have made sorcery front & center in our culture. Children are checking out books & websites on the occult over 100 times more often then before this series came out! Movies like Harry Potter are incredibly dangerous. Of course satan is wise enough to keep it so suttle, it slip under the parents radar, until it is too late. The damage is done. You cannot serve two Gods…
 
The rise in paganism, which includes (but is not limited to) belief in pre-Christian and post-Christian worship, probably has a lot to do with it. Playing with non-Christian practices such as divination, mediumship, ouija boards, new age cults, etc., holds a lot of dangers, I think.
The old pre-Vatican II Baptism rite included a minor exorcism. This originated, I’m told, in the early Church, when converts from pagan religions were presumed to be at risk of having lingering demonic links. The early Church fathers believed (as did the Jews) that the pagan religions were “false” not in that the deities they worshipped did not exist, but that they worshipped demons - unclean spirits - who masqueraded as shining pagan gods and drew their followers into sinful practices and perdition. It was felt that such fallen angels would not easily give up their hold on those who had worshipped them, so the Baptism rite included a forceful cleansing of such demonic presences from the individual:
This was in Part III of the old Baptismal rite, which was conducted in the Nave. (I was baptized this way, back in 1958) :
Priest: I exorcise thee, every unclean spirit, in the name of God the Father + Almighty, in the name of Jesus + Christ, His Son, our Lord and Judge, and in the power of the Holy + Spirit, that thou be depart from this creature of God N, which our Lord hath deigned to call unto His holy temple, that it may be made the temple of the living God, and that the Holy Spirit may dwell therein. Through the same Christ our Lord, who shall come to judge the living and the dead, and the world by fire. (Priest: Exorcizo te, omnis spiritus immunde, in nomine Dei + Patris omnipotentis, et in nomine Iesu + Christi Filii eius, Domini et Iudicis nostri, et in virtute Spiritus + Sancti, ut discedas ab hoc plasmate Dei N, quod Dominus noster ad templum sanctum suum vocare dignatus est, ut fiat templum Dei vivi, et Spiritus Sanctus habitet in eo. Per eundum Christum Dominum nostrum, qui venturus est iudicare vivos et mortuos, et saeculum per ignem.)
Adults or Godparents of a child were then asked:
Priest: N., do you renounce Satan?
Priest: N., abrenuntias Satanæ?
Sponsor/Catechumen: I do renounce him.
Sponsor/Catechumen: Abrenuntio.
Priest: And all of his works?
Priest: Et omnibus operibus eius?
Sponsor/Catechumen: I do renounce him.
Sponsor/Catechumen: Abrenuntio.
Priest: And all his pomps?
Priest: Et omnibus pompis eius?
Sponsor/Catechumen: I do renounce him.
  • Sponsor/Catechumen: Abrenuntio.*
I’ve heard that parents can still request that rite, but I’m not sure. An adult entering the Catholic faith who has not been previously baptized in a Christian rite, and who has been involved in pagan or neo-pagan practices, would probably benefit from such an older rite of baptism, if his priest felt it was appropriate and was willing to perform it. Just my personal opinion on that.
As far as the “Force” involved, I would say it is that of our Enemy.
Why it is more common? My personal opinion is that paganism is becoming the dominant force in the world, masquerading under the new cover of secularism. The key feature of paganism in the ancient world is that it was inextricably linked with worship of the state, as each country, region, city, and locality had its own (false) gods, who demanded appeasement and worship through acts such as sacrifice of the young and immoral sexual practices. Support of the demonic entities by worshippers also supported the rulers, who were also often awarded the status of gods themselves, and worthy of worship. The concepts of the proper delineation of authority between man and God was unknown in the world (and would have been considered both blasphemous and treasonous) until Christ introduced the idea. The worship of the state, and the idea that the state (or the individual’s moral compass) is the sole moral authority, is becoming much more common and is the new paradigm by which many people view the basis of morality, so why should we be surprised that the rebirth of paganism is accompanied by an increase in such phenomena?
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Awesome POST!

Thanks,
Pat
 
Here are a couple of books by modern exorcist priests. They are well worth reading:

An Exorcist Tells His Story, by Fr. Gabriele Amorth

An Exorcist: More Stories by Gabriele Amorth

Interview With an Exorcist by Fr. Jose Antonio Fortea

The Catholic Answers radio show has had numerous programs about the topic. You can find some of them here.

The previous poster was correct in that cases of demonic oppression and possession seem to be on the rise world-wide. When there is an absence of faith in God, the devil is more than happy to fill the void.
 
Hostage to the Devil by Malachi Martin

A few weeks ago I finished a fascinating book by Malachi Martin titled “Hostage to the Devil: The Possession and Exorcism of Five Contemporary Americans.” Now I don’t know how many thousands of books I’ve read over my lifetime, quite a few I’m sure, but I can’t seem to recall one as heavy and dark as this one was.

Martin, a (now deceased) former Catholic Priest, writes of five firsthand accounts of demon possession and subsequent exorcism. Martin thoroughly researched each case, interviewing those involved and studying the recordings and transcripts of the exorcism, to present an accurate portrayal of what demonic possession is like. As you can imagine, all of the possessed were involved in sinful lifestyles and Martin doesn’t pull any punches in his recap (Read that: Mature Audiences Only).
 
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