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Why do modern day christians and Jews not follow the rules laid out in the book of deuteronomy?
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Which rules?
The Decalogue is a set of minimum requirements and Christians are expected to go beyond the minimum in relating to others. They don’t but they’re expected to.
The rules of ritual purity are transcended by the new covenant.
The rules regarding temple sacrifice are fulfilled perfectly in the sacrifice of the Messiah.
The Jews have another set of arguments developed by the Rabbis after the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem for the suspension of sacrifices, but much of the ritual purity law is still in effect. Check with a Yeshivah about the Jewish attitude toward the Torah.
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The Decalogue is a set of minimum requirements and Christians are expected to go beyond the minimum in relating to others. They don’t but they’re expected to.
The rules of ritual purity are transcended by the new covenant.
The rules regarding temple sacrifice are fulfilled perfectly in the sacrifice of the Messiah.
The Jews have another set of arguments developed by the Rabbis after the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem for the suspension of sacrifices, but much of the ritual purity law is still in effect. Check with a Yeshivah about the Jewish attitude toward the Torah.
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suupah
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for example deuteronomy13Which rules?
The Decalogue is a set of minimum requirements and Christians are expected to go beyond the minimum in relating to others. They don’t but they’re expected to.
The rules of ritual purity are transcended by the new covenant.
The rules regarding temple sacrifice are fulfilled perfectly in the sacrifice of the Messiah.
The Jews have another set of arguments developed by the Rabbis after the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem for the suspension of sacrifices, but much of the ritual purity law is still in effect. Check with a Yeshivah about the Jewish attitude toward the Torah.
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"If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or your intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other:9 do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him,10 but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you.11 You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the LORD, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery.
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Nita
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I just replied to a similar thread - so will just copy (with a little editing) what I posted there.
When God called the OT people to be His chosen people, He established not only a religion, but also a nation. The laws He decreed encompassed religion, health, civil government, everything. The laws you cite would fall under the judicial aspect. Unlike our democracy that insists on separation of state and religion, with the Jews, the two were welded together. What harmed the religion, harmed the nation and vice versa.
When Jesus came, the kingdom He founded was the universal kingdom of God (Church)- a religion, but not a nation. The members of this kingdom were to go everywhere and be leaven within the existing nations. Hence, the only “laws” retained from OT were the moral laws. (To these were added Jesus further moral teachings and doctrine, and His instruction on the hierarchical structure of this kingdom, His Church.) Old Covenant religious ritual laws no longer applied since, with the New Covenant, there was a new priesthood and a new sacrifice and ritual worship. Other national and judicial laws were no longer applicable since Christianity was not a nation.
You can usually tell how threatening a certain action was to this purpose of God by the severity of the penalty He decreed. What could prove fatal to the establishment of this religion/nation - where His truth could be taught, upheld and practiced - was likely to deserve capital punishment. (Keep in mind also the lack of prison facilities when the nation is rural, small, etc. When the laws were originally given, the Jews were still nomadic, traveling thru the desert.)
Acts that God considered a serious threat included:
Living side by side with pagans (hence the expelling or killing of pagans when the Jews conquered a land);
Jews who adopted pagan beliefs and practices;
Adultery (stable family life critical)
Murder
There are probably more; but if you examine them you understand why there needed to be a severe punishment if a Godly nation was to be “born” and survive in the midst of a pagan world. (An analogy in my mind is that the years from Abraham to Moses constituted the pregnancy; from Moses to Jesus, birth to adulthood; Christianity, adulthood.)
Nita
When God called the OT people to be His chosen people, He established not only a religion, but also a nation. The laws He decreed encompassed religion, health, civil government, everything. The laws you cite would fall under the judicial aspect. Unlike our democracy that insists on separation of state and religion, with the Jews, the two were welded together. What harmed the religion, harmed the nation and vice versa.
When Jesus came, the kingdom He founded was the universal kingdom of God (Church)- a religion, but not a nation. The members of this kingdom were to go everywhere and be leaven within the existing nations. Hence, the only “laws” retained from OT were the moral laws. (To these were added Jesus further moral teachings and doctrine, and His instruction on the hierarchical structure of this kingdom, His Church.) Old Covenant religious ritual laws no longer applied since, with the New Covenant, there was a new priesthood and a new sacrifice and ritual worship. Other national and judicial laws were no longer applicable since Christianity was not a nation.
You can usually tell how threatening a certain action was to this purpose of God by the severity of the penalty He decreed. What could prove fatal to the establishment of this religion/nation - where His truth could be taught, upheld and practiced - was likely to deserve capital punishment. (Keep in mind also the lack of prison facilities when the nation is rural, small, etc. When the laws were originally given, the Jews were still nomadic, traveling thru the desert.)
Acts that God considered a serious threat included:
Living side by side with pagans (hence the expelling or killing of pagans when the Jews conquered a land);
Jews who adopted pagan beliefs and practices;
Adultery (stable family life critical)
Murder
There are probably more; but if you examine them you understand why there needed to be a severe punishment if a Godly nation was to be “born” and survive in the midst of a pagan world. (An analogy in my mind is that the years from Abraham to Moses constituted the pregnancy; from Moses to Jesus, birth to adulthood; Christianity, adulthood.)
Nita
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